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Thu, 4 May 2023 19:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <83a5ysshvr.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261043 Archived-At: On 28/04/2023 08:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:51:19 +0300 >> Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, joaotavora@gmail.com >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >>> We can say something like "Currently, ..." to make that clear. >> >> Very good, I've used that and an additional clarification for a >> recommended alternative. Please see how you like it, or whether it needs >> improving. > > I've made a few minor improvements, thanks. Thank you. >> Before the next pretest is cut, I'd also like to bring up the question >> again of backporting the patch for bug#62816 (with Joao's support: >> previously mentioned in >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62720#517, for example). >> >> It improves the part of Eldoc that is not used by default >> (eldoc-documentation-strategy has a different value) but which is used >> by Eglot since it changes that variable in its managed buffers. > > That patch didn't yet accumulate enough time for me to consider it > safe for the release branch. Depending on when Emacs 29.1 is released > and whether we hear some downsides of the change, it could need to > wait for Emacs 29.2 or for Emacs 30.1. Okay. Let's get back to the previous topic. What about the previous fix for package-upgrade that I posted, one that makes it unconditionally upgrade built-in packages when invoked? The one attached here: https://debbugs.gnu.org/62720#718 Can we put it on master now, or do we have to wait for some feedback from Emacs 29 first?