Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Ralf Angeli]

* Henrik Andersson (2005-09-07) writes:

> I edit a lot of LaTeX manuscripts and I started to use emacs key 
> sequences to move easier, avoiding the mouse.
>
> One question, why does M-a and M-e not move to beginning/end of 
> sentences, but paragraphs, when the description clearly says that they 
> are moving around sentences. Are there a different function that will do 
> this?

See `C-h f forward-sentence RET' and `C-h v sentence-end RET'.

-- 
Ralf

Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Henrik Andersson]

Ralf Angeli wrote:
> * Henrik Andersson (2005-09-07) writes:
> 
> 
>>I edit a lot of LaTeX manuscripts and I started to use emacs key 
>>sequences to move easier, avoiding the mouse.
>>
>>One question, why does M-a and M-e not move to beginning/end of 
>>sentences, but paragraphs, when the description clearly says that they 
>>are moving around sentences. Are there a different function that will do 
>>this?
> 
> 
> See `C-h f forward-sentence RET' and `C-h v sentence-end RET'.
> 
Ok, I read but do not fully understand, does it mean I need two spaces 
separating sentences?


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Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Slawomir Nowaczyk]

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:50:24 +0200
Henrik Andersson <h.andersson@nioo.knaw.nl> wrote:

#> >>One question, why does M-a and M-e not move to beginning/end of 
#> >>sentences, but paragraphs, when the description clearly says that they 
#> >>are moving around sentences. Are there a different function that will do 
#> >>this?

#> > See `C-h f forward-sentence RET' and `C-h v sentence-end RET'.

#> Ok, I read but do not fully understand, does it mean I need two
#> spaces separating sentences?

If your value of sentence-end-double-space is non-nil, then yes. If
you don't want to end your sentences with two spaces, just customise
this variable: M-x customize-variable RET sentence-end-double-space

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Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Ralf Angeli]

* Henrik Andersson (2005-09-07) writes:

> Ralf Angeli wrote:
>> 
>> See `C-h f forward-sentence RET' and `C-h v sentence-end RET'.
>> 
> Ok, I read but do not fully understand, does it mean I need two spaces 
> separating sentences?

If you don't want to change `sentence-end', yes.  In contrast to Emacs
21, this should not be necessary if you set
`sentence-end-double-space' to your preferred value.

More on the topic can be found in (info "(emacs)Sentences").

-- 
Ralf

Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Ralf Angeli]

* Ralf Angeli (2005-09-07) writes:

> If you don't want to change `sentence-end', yes.  In contrast to Emacs
> 21, this should not be necessary if you set
> `sentence-end-double-space' to your preferred value.

Sorry, the last sentence was supposed to be "In contrast to Emacs 21,
this should not be necessary in a CVS Emacs if you set
`sentence-end-double-space' to your preferred value."

-- 
Ralf

Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 07.09.2005 um 12:37 schrieb Ralf Angeli:

> set `sentence-end-double-space' to your preferred value

That's very good news!

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Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Henrik Andersson]

Ralf Angeli wrote:
> * Henrik Andersson (2005-09-07) writes:
> 
> 
>>Ralf Angeli wrote:
>>
>>>See `C-h f forward-sentence RET' and `C-h v sentence-end RET'.
>>>
>>
>>Ok, I read but do not fully understand, does it mean I need two spaces 
>>separating sentences?
> 
> 
> If you don't want to change `sentence-end', yes.  In contrast to Emacs
> 21, this should not be necessary if you set
> `sentence-end-double-space' to your preferred value.
> 
> More on the topic can be found in (info "(emacs)Sentences").
> 
I see, thanks.

The descriptions of variables and functions are sometimes a bit cryptic 
to understand, but this of course understandable with so many functions 
to document. Nice to have this mailing list to get answers from real people.

Have a nice day, Henrik

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Re: Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Alan Mackenzie]

Henrik Andersson <h.andersson@nioo.knaw.nl> wrote on Wed, 07 Sep 2005
11:50:24 +0200:
> Ralf Angeli wrote:
>> * Henrik Andersson (2005-09-07) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>>I edit a lot of LaTeX manuscripts and I started to use emacs key
>>>sequences to move easier, avoiding the mouse.
>>>
>>>One question, why does M-a and M-e not move to beginning/end of
>>>sentences, but paragraphs, when the description clearly says that they
>>>are moving around sentences. Are there a different function that will
>>>do this?
>> 
>> 
>> See `C-h f forward-sentence RET' and `C-h v sentence-end RET'.
>> 
> Ok, I read but do not fully understand, does it mean I need two spaces
> separating sentences?

Probably.  (I'm guessing here about what your problem is.)  Either that, or
change `sentence-end' to match sentences with just one space after them.
Have a look at the page "Regexp Example" in the Elisp manual.

I don't know if the mode you're using changes `sentence-end'.  Why don't
you post it here?  If it doesn't, the following value might work for you:

This is the standard value, which insists on 2 spaces after a sentence:
"[.?!][]\"')}]*\\($\\| $\\|\t\\|  \\)[ \t\n]*"

This adaptation only needs one space.
"[.?!][]\"')}]*\\($\\|\t\\| \\)[ \t\n]*"

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Email: aacm@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

Why does 'M-a' not move to the beginning of the sentence?

[Henrik Andersson]

I edit a lot of LaTeX manuscripts and I started to use emacs key 
sequences to move easier, avoiding the mouse.

One question, why does M-a and M-e not move to beginning/end of 
sentences, but paragraphs, when the description clearly says that they 
are moving around sentences. Are there a different function that will do 
this?

---------------------------------------------
Henrik Andersson
Netherlands Institute of Ecology -
Centre for Estuarine and Marine Ecology
P.O. Box 140
4400 AC Yerseke
Phone: +31 113 577473
h.andersson@nioo.knaw.nl
http://www.nioo.knaw.nl/ppages/handersson