From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: GianUberto.Lauri@eng.it (Gian Uberto Lauri) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:49:29 +0100 Message-ID: <16956.18953.703708.287613@mail.eng.it> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <01c52c71$Blat.v2.4$400dcce0@zahav.net.il> <423C385F.6080704@yahoo.de> Reply-To: saint@eng.it NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111248347 10657 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 16:05:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 17:05:46 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCgRm-0003WD-35 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:05:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCgiU-0007Ew-Gw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:22:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCgdt-0004P1-Gk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:17:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCgdn-0004Lu-OM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:17:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCgdn-0004G2-5u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:17:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.205.33.41] (helo=mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DCgCy-0000IN-BU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:49:48 -0500 Original-Received: from cyrano (217.133.20.189) by mail-relay-1.tiscali.it (7.1.021.3) id 4202030C00680E4F; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:49:46 +0100 Original-To: niels_freimann@yahoo.de In-Reply-To: <423C385F.6080704@yahoo.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under Emacs 21.3.50.1 X-attribution: CC X-Zippy: I'm working under the direct orders of WAYNE NEWTON to deport consenting adults! X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24959 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24959 >>>>> "n" == nfreimann writes: n> Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> If someone is happy with Notepad, they probably don't need Emacs. And >> >> n> Eli, what he wants to tell us is, that CUA bindings and GUI dialogs n> are common today, and not proprietary key bindings and dialogs a la n> mini buffer or something. I find Emacs "proprietary" (prorietary and Emacs sounds like an oxymoron[?]) much smarter than CUA ones (that you can activate by means of a menu item, at least in my "GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.6.0) of 2004-11-20 on cyrano" and minibuffer much more powerful than dialogs, anyway. I can see NO modern tool matching Emacs editing power (neither that of the tools of the sixes). -- /\ ___ /___/\__|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_____________________ //--\ | | \| | Integralista GNUslamico \/ e coltivatore diretto di software