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It was difficult to find because = the script works in previous Emacsversions and all other applications. So, = I need to change the logic to the new conditions of Emacs 25. Thank you for your help, Levis=20 On Friday, September 23, 2016 3:23 PM, Mambo Levis wrote: =20 Searching for a solution of the super and hyper keys problem, I found that= even though the superis not working as prefix, the use of Shift + s is int= erpreted as super, for example: Shift + super + a is interpreted as s-aShift + super + z in interpreted as = s-zShift + super + d in interpreted as=C2=A0s-d and so on...=20 Maybe you have experience with something similar. My definitely solutionwil= l be eliminating the use of super and hyper in my configuration. But I woul= d like tolisten first some final comments/recommendations for you.=C2=A0 Thanks On Friday, September 23, 2016 3:53 AM, Mambo Levis wrote: =20 Levis>> can you please tell me what is the value of this variable in your = emacs?=20 C-h v system-configuration-options Am 21.09.2016 um 21:10 schrieb Eli Zaretskii : >> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:43:08 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Mambo Levis >> Cc: "robert-emacs@cochranmail.com" ,=20 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "24453@debbugs.gnu.org" <24453@debbugs.gnu.org> >>=20 >> Which probably means you have some local system customizations >> (outside of Emacs) that affect this. >>=20 >> Levis >>> The point is that super key works if I use the master brach of= emacs. For example I am testing=20 >> the master branch at this moment:=20 >>=20 >> Let me first I show you emacs version: >> GNU Emacs 25.1.50.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) >>=20 >> Then the tests: >> s-a is undefined >> s-b is undefined >> s-c in undefined >> etc >> All of them work. Why the master work and the official release not?=20 >=20 > The master branch has some code that hooks the keyboard at a lower > level, so it is able to intercept these keys. =20 =20 ------=_Part_311643_530607300.1474639979007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Finally, I found = the problem. 

Something in Emacs changed and now an Autohotkey script tha= t I use to emulate German
words is in conflict with Emacs. It was difficult to fin= d because the script works in previous Emacs
versions and all other applications. = So, I need to change the logic to the new conditions of Emacs 25.

Thank you for your help,

Levis


On Friday, September 23, 2016 3:23 PM, Mambo Levis <mambo.levis@gmai= l.com> wrote:


=
Searching for a solution of the super and hyper keys problem, = I found that even though the super
is not working as pref= ix, the use of Shift + s is interpreted as super, for example:
=

Shift + super + a is interpreted as s-a
Shift += super + z in interpreted as s-z
Shift + super + d in interpreted as = ;s-d
and so on...=

<= /font>
Maybe you have exper= ience with something similar. My definitely solution
will be eliminating the use of super and h= yper in my configuration. But I would like to
listen first some final comments/recommendations = for you. 

Thanks

<= /font>
On Friday, September 23,= 2016 3:53 AM, Mambo Levis <mambo.levis@gmail.com> wrote:


Levis>> can you pl= ease tell me what is the value of this variable in your emacs?
C-h v system-configuration-options


Am 21.09.2016 um 21:10 schrieb Eli Zaretskii &l= t;eliz@gnu.org>:

>> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:43:08 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Mambo Levis <mambo.levis@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "robert-emacs@cochranmail.com" <robert-emacs@c= ochranmail.com>,
>>    "24453@debbugs.gnu.org" <24453@debbugs.gnu.org>
= >>
>> Which probably means you have some loc= al system customizations
>> (outside of Emacs) that= affect this.
>>
>> Levis = >>> The point is that super key works if I use the master brach of= emacs. For example I am testing
>> the master bra= nch at this moment:
>>
>>= Let me first I show you emacs version:
>> GNU Emac= s 25.1.50.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
>>
>> Then the tests:
>> s-a is undefined>> s-b is undefined
>> s-c in= undefined
>> etc
>> All of= them work. Why the master work and the official release not?
>
> The master branch has some code that hoo= ks the keyboard at a lower
> level, so it is able to i= ntercept these keys.




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