The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

[Ding Lei]

Hello Folks,
	I was previously a Vimmer, just (preparing) to convert to emacs...
I am using emacs 21.3.50.2, compiled from the cvs source around april, with gtk2 toolkit.
Basically using emacs for java development with JDEE & Ecb. Though both of them two often shows this or that error complaining things like "symbol void/not found" , but anyway.. that's ok. 
The most unbearable thing is the ugly big scrollbar(splitline) between buffers(directory buffer, source buffer, method buffer). They take too much screen space, I would prefer a thin ascii char splitline in VIM.
	Any way to customize the scrollbar in emacs?

	Thank you!

	
	


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Re: The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:49:06 +0800
> From: Ding Lei <dinglei@ipanel.cn>
> 
> The most unbearable thing is the ugly big scrollbar(splitline) between buffers(directory buffer, source buffer, method buffer). They take too much screen space, I would prefer a thin ascii char splitline in VIM.
> 	Any way to customize the scrollbar in emacs?

Do you really mean the scrollbar, the vertical one that is on the
right or left of a buffer's display (called ``a window'', btw)?  Or do
you mean the horizontal separator between windows, the one below the
displayed text, where you see the buffer's name, the current line
number, etc.?

For the former: (scroll-bar-mode -1) will turn off scroll bars.

For the latter: no, you cannot disable it, nor make it a single thin
line.  About the only thing I know of that can help you is to
customize the `mode-line' face to use a smaller font.

Re: The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

[Miles Bader]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>  Or do you mean the horizontal separator between windows, the one
> below the displayed text, where you see the buffer's name, the current
> line number, etc.?
...
> For the latter: no, you cannot disable it, nor make it a single thin
> line.  About the only thing I know of that can help you is to
> customize the `mode-line' face to use a smaller font.

Actually you _can_ disable it in Emacs 21:  (setq-default mode-line-format nil)

I wouldn't recommend it though -- you won't be able to eaily tell where
one window ends and the next begins, there's not even a thin line or
anything.

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Re: The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

[Ding Lei]

Thank you very much for both of your help!
btw. How to apply for an email address ends with @gnu.org ? that's really cool! ^_^

On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 09:02:24AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >  Or do you mean the horizontal separator between windows, the one
> > below the displayed text, where you see the buffer's name, the current
> > line number, etc.?
> ...
> > For the latter: no, you cannot disable it, nor make it a single thin
> > line.  About the only thing I know of that can help you is to
> > customize the `mode-line' face to use a smaller font.
> 
> Actually you _can_ disable it in Emacs 21:  (setq-default mode-line-format nil)
> 
> I wouldn't recommend it though -- you won't be able to eaily tell where
> one window ends and the next begins, there's not even a thin line or
> anything.
> 
> -Miles
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Re: The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:55:40 +0800
> From: Ding Lei <dinglei@ipanel.cn>
> 
> btw. How to apply for an email address ends with @gnu.org ?

We both actually have an account on GNU project machines.  You need to
be active contributor to one or more GNU projects to get that.

Re: The ugly scrollbar of emacs 21.3.50.2

[Jesper Harder]

Ding Lei <dinglei@ipanel.cn> writes:

> The most unbearable thing is the ugly big scrollbar(splitline)
> between buffers(directory buffer, source buffer, method
> buffer). They take too much screen space, I would prefer a thin
> ascii char splitline

Since you're using the GTK, it should be possible to change the size
of scroll bar in your ~/.emacs.d/gtkrc.

Don't ask me how, but some of the GTK themes do it, so you can
probably figure it out by looking at them.

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Jesper Harder                                <http://purl.org/harder/>