From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jglauner@sbum.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: smtpmail.el and 1msg Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:15:31 -0600 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <16463.23363.546305.750102@freezer.sbum.org> References: <16455.40870.198614.821339@freezer.sbum.org> Reply-To: jglauner@sbum.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1079056046 7453 80.91.224.253 (12 Mar 2004 01:47:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 01:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 12 02:47:16 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B1blc-0000uS-00 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:47:16 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B1blc-0006Mh-00 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:47:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B1ald-00009r-HO for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:43:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B18Tr-0003T7-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:30:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B18R8-0002mb-06 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:28:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.115.63.103] (helo=pimout4-ext.prodigy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B18F7-0007Xj-EE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:15:45 -0500 Original-Received: from freezer.sbum.org (adsl-66-142-213-44.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net [66.142.213.44]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 out 1msg/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2AIFVk3213716; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:15:32 -0500 Original-To: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under Emacs 21.2.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20321 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20321 >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: > Thanks! I believe this also explains a few bug reports I've got, > with the exact same symptoms as the ones you describe. > Does anyone know what motivate people to do this? It sounds to me > like a rather disruptive thing to do. It would appear that it's a spam-prevention measure. > Do you have of a reference to this 1msg stuff? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=53a824b6.0402031144.54558593%40posting.google.com&rnum=30&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D1msg%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D53a824b6.0402031144.54558593%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D30 Sorry about the long URL there, but I that thread was as close as I could find. Basically, SBC came in and made some changes that aren't compatible with various mailers including Mozilla, Eudora, and Emacs smtpmail... If I use smtpauth.sbcglobal.net and use AUTH LOGIN, I can send just fine and it waits for QUIT just like it's supposed to. Ultimately, I suspect that other ISPs are going to use the 1msg option to help stop spammers. *eyeroll* Not sure how it should be incorporated... all I know for sure is that my patch Works For Me. ;-) --Jon