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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: suggestion: display of #+TITLE
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <161BB572-48B8-4E1C-9437-EAA3A0863465@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hp5i1wl.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk>

Hi Dan,

I think the patch is almost good.  I do like the larger face
for the title, and I know that some themes also use larger faces
for headlines.

But I think we at least need a variable
governing if the keyword will be made invisible or not.
If you type "#+email:", for example, that string does disappear
without a trace, and that is very confusing.  In fact, my preference
would be to not make the keyword invisible.

Thanks

- Carsten

On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Dan Davison wrote:

> Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Dan Davison wrote:
>>>
>>>> Might it be worth considering a special display for the #+title  
>>>> line
>>>> in
>>>> org buffers?
>>>>
>>>> Currently it is easy for the title to get buried among more  
>>>> technical
>>>> configuration lines like #+options, #+startup, #+seq_toto etc.  
>>>> One can
>>>> take the approach of leaving #+title at the top of the document,  
>>>> and
>>>> moving the other config lines elesewhere, but even so I am  
>>>> wondering
>>>> whether anyone else is attracted by the idea of providing an org- 
>>>> title
>>>> display property that would hide the #+title: component, and use an
>>>> appropriate face for the title text.
>>>>
>>>> In some ways, the current state gives the impression that the  
>>>> title is
>>>> something which becomes important during export, but is not  
>>>> really a
>>>> key
>>>> component of document when it is being viewed in emacs. For  
>>>> example, I
>>>> expect others are familiar with the experience of exporting an org
>>>> file
>>>> without a title, finding that the first heading has been used as a
>>>> title, and then going back to add in the title as an
>>>> afterthought. But a
>>>> title is an important part of a document, and I thought perhaps a
>>>> special title display would help to make the title more of a first
>>>> class
>>>> citizen in org buffers?
>>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> I agree.  Maybe he same should be true for DATE and AUTHOR, maybe  
>>> EMAIL?
>>>
>>> Would you like to make a patch for this, introducing a new face
>>> and applying it to these constructs?
>
> I've made a proposed patch (below). This involved making a few  
> decisions
> about appearance -- it would be great to get other peoples' views and
> alternative proposals.
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, I think we should ask the question
> "What might attract new users to org-mode most?", rather than query  
> our
> personal preferences (because we can all change it ourselves or fire  
> off
> an email to this list asking how).
>
> Here's my main proposal (corresponding to the patch below). Note  
> that in
> the first 4 lines the #+TITLE: and #+AUTHOR: etc bits are still there,
> but invisible.
>
> [I've also put the screenshots at http://www.princeton.edu/~ddavison/org-faces/ 
> ]
>
> [Default-MidnightBlue.png]
> <Default-MidnightBlue.png>
> The main issue then is that I'm suggesting making the title face  
> larger
> than the other faces. This would be the only large face in org-mode,  
> but
> I thought that it was appropriate for the title. Here's a version
> without the large title face:
>
> [Default-MidnightBlue-NoBigTitle.png]
> <Default-MidnightBlue-NoBigTitle.png>
> As for the colours, here's an alternative:
>
> [Default-DarkSlateGrey.png]
> <Default-DarkSlateGrey.png>
> The important thing is the default emacs colour theme shown above,  
> but I
> did pick a colour for dark backgrounds. For what it's worth, here is
> what it looks like with (the excellent) color-theme-charcoal-black:
>
> [CharcoalBlack-SteelBlue.png]
> <CharcoalBlack-SteelBlue.png>
> Here's the patch. If anyone wants to play around, it's pretty  
> obvious in
> the patch below where to change the colours (and boldness and
> height). Don't forget the functions list-colors-display and
> list-faces-display.
>
> There's at least one issue with the patch: if you leave a space  
> between
> e.g. '#+TITLE:' and the start of the title text, then that space will
> not be made invisible and so will appear at the start of the title. I
> couldn't see how to avoid that without altering one of the key font- 
> lock
> regexps.
>
> Dan
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> commit 72aa791ea0bf613d50b9bf88affd6a53e91c1ebe
> Author: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
> Date:   Sun Mar 21 20:26:02 2010 -0400
>
>    Alter display of title, author, email and date lines.
>
>    For each of #+TITLE:, #+AUTHOR:, #+EMAIL:, #+DATE:, the
>    initial #+KEYWORD: part is hidden and the following new
>    faces are applied to the remaining visible part:
>
>    org-title-line
>    org-author-line
>    org-email-line
>    org-date-line
>
> diff --git a/lisp/org-faces.el b/lisp/org-faces.el
> index e336b3c..ebc9596 100644
> --- a/lisp/org-faces.el
> +++ b/lisp/org-faces.el
> @@ -468,6 +468,25 @@ changes."
>   :group 'org-faces
>   :version "22.1")
>
> +(defface org-title-line
> +  '((((class color) (background light)) (:foreground "midnight  
> blue" :weight bold :height 1.44))
> +    (((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground "steel  
> blue" :weight bold :height 1.44))
> +    (t (:weight bold :height 1.44)))
> +  "Face for #+TITLE: line."
> +  :group 'org-faces)
> +
> +(defface org-author-line
> +  '((((class color) (background light)) (:foreground "midnight  
> blue"))
> +    (((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground "steel blue")))
> +  "Face for #+AUTHOR: line."
> +  :group 'org-faces)
> +
> +(org-copy-face 'org-author-line 'org-email-line
> +  "Face for #+EMAIL: line.")
> +
> +(org-copy-face 'org-author-line 'org-date-line
> +  "Face for #+DATE: line.")
> +
> (defface org-block
>   (org-compatible-face 'shadow
>     '((((class color grayscale) (min-colors 88) (background light))
> diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
> index b723528..17e3877 100644
> --- a/lisp/org.el
> +++ b/lisp/org.el
> @@ -4642,6 +4642,22 @@ will be prompted for."
> 	       ((string= block-type "verse")
> 		(add-text-properties beg1 end1 '(face org-verse))))
> 	      t))
> +	   ((equal dc1 "title:")
> +	    (add-text-properties beg (match-end 3) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> invisible t))
> +	    (add-text-properties
> +	     (match-beginning 6) (match-end 6) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> face org-title-line)))
> +	   ((equal dc1 "author:")
> +	    (add-text-properties beg (match-end 3) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> invisible t))
> +	    (add-text-properties
> +	     (match-beginning 6) (match-end 6) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> face org-author-line)))
> +	   ((equal dc1 "email:")
> +	    (add-text-properties beg (match-end 3) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> invisible t))
> +	    (add-text-properties
> +	     (match-beginning 6) (match-end 6) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> face org-email-line)))
> +	   ((equal dc1 "date:")
> +	    (add-text-properties beg (match-end 3) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> invisible t))
> +	    (add-text-properties
> +	     (match-beginning 6) (match-end 6) '(font-lock-fontified t  
> face org-date-line)))
> 	   ((not (member (char-after beg) '(?\  ?\t)))
> 	    ;; just any other in-buffer setting, but not indented
> 	    (add-text-properties
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
>
>>
>> OK, it's on my list.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>>
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- Carsten

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-24 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-16 16:25 suggestion: display of #+TITLE Dan Davison
2010-03-18  6:04 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-03-18 14:21   ` Dan Davison
2010-03-22  1:36     ` Dan Davison
     [not found]     ` <877hp5i1wl.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk>
2010-03-24 14:52       ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-03-24 20:22         ` Scot Becker
2010-03-26  3:34           ` Dan Davison
2010-03-27 21:34             ` Scot Becker
2010-03-28  2:52               ` Dan Davison
2010-03-28  7:36                 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-03-30  2:04                 ` Thomas S. Dye

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