From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Fwd: Keyboard Access (T.V.Raman 1) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:38:44 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <16176.1988.70569.874168@nick.uklinux.net> References: <16171.9294.617646.195373@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <16171.40665.169763.660763@nick.uklinux.net> <16171.54169.662825.486971@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <16172.52011.121221.726593@nick.uklinux.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060113470 30515 80.91.224.253 (5 Aug 2003 19:57:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 21:58:10 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19k7wg-0002Kg-00 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:58:10 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19k81L-0002MX-00 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:02:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k7wD-000558-7P for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:57:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19k7w7-00052E-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:57:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19k7u2-0003ZV-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.247.50.44] (helo=nick.uklinux.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k7n1-000744-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: by nick.uklinux.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id BA45775FDE; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:38:44 +0100 (BST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <16172.52011.121221.726593@nick.uklinux.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.97 under Emacs 21.2.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15813 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15813 I am forwarding two e-mails that T V Raman sent as part of a thread but which never seemed to make it to emacs-devel. As well as specific questions about gdb-ui.el, he has general things to ask and say about keyboard access (in the context of emacspeak). Nick ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: "T. V. Raman" To: Nick Roberts Cc: raman@cs.cornell.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Keyboard Access For gdb-ui.el (from emacs 21.3.50 CVS) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 05:32:33 -0700 Thanks --I'll wait on the display aspects of GDB. The reason I started walking the surces was because the documentation in the info file was pretty exclusively about mouse clicks when it came to the array slice bits. Incidentally given that mouse events are nothing more than list structures, would it be possible to create a keyboard-generate-mouse-event function? Would be a nice means to exploit some of the newer features of emacs ---as an example, balloon help in itself may not be directly useful to the emacspeak user --- you really dont want emacs intrrupting what you're listening to and tell you things --makes it too much like the dreaded office-clip from idiot-proven interfaces. On the other hand it would be nice to ask for a tooltip. So I might move through a source file --- and push a key to hear the value of an identifier spoken to me. Thoughts? -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@cs.cornell.edu WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: TVRaman PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc IRC: irc://irc.gnu.org/emacspeak