ITEM in column view in the agenda

ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Adam Spiers]

I'm trying to get a good COLUMN format for viewing the agenda in
column view mode.  Am I right in thinking that ITEM is the only
property available for showing the actual "meat" of a given headline?
The problem with ITEM is that it includes any leaders, plus the TODO
keyword and priority, which leads to duplication if any of these are
displayed in separate columns, e.g.:

TODO    | PRI | Task
[snip]
NEXT    | A   |   personal:In   1d:  NEXT [#A] book MOT  | ....
WAITING | B   |   personal:Sched.109x:  WAITING [#B] boo | ....

Of course it is very wasteful of window width to have this
duplication, so I would like to at least be able to exclude the TODO
keyword and priority from the ITEM column, and preferably the leaders
too (although I would like to keep them for normal non-column agenda
view).  Asking too much as usual? ;-)

Thanks!

Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

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Hi Adam,

no, this is not too much to ask, in particular since I am doing
this kind of compaction (not duplicating info that is shown in
other columns) already in the normal column view (i.e. in
an Org buffer as opposed to the agenda buffer.  In fact, the
function doing the compaction is already called, only it does
not do anything because it is trying to match a headline.
This can be easily fixed....... DONE.

This should now also work in agenda buffers, using the latest
GIT version.  There is a new variable
`org-agenda-columns-remove-prefix-from-item' which can be used
to decide it the prefex should be removed.  The default
it to remove it in column view, on order to optimize the use
of the window width.

HTH

- Carsten



On May 28, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Adam Spiers wrote:

> I'm trying to get a good COLUMN format for viewing the agenda in
> column view mode.  Am I right in thinking that ITEM is the only
> property available for showing the actual "meat" of a given headline?
> The problem with ITEM is that it includes any leaders, plus the TODO
> keyword and priority, which leads to duplication if any of these are
> displayed in separate columns, e.g.:
>
> TODO    | PRI | Task
> [snip]
> NEXT    | A   |   personal:In   1d:  NEXT [#A] book MOT  | ....
> WAITING | B   |   personal:Sched.109x:  WAITING [#B] boo | ....
>
> Of course it is very wasteful of window width to have this
> duplication, so I would like to at least be able to exclude the TODO
> keyword and priority from the ITEM column, and preferably the leaders
> too (although I would like to keep them for normal non-column agenda
> view).  Asking too much as usual? ;-)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Adam Spiers]

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:09:31AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> no, this is not too much to ask, in particular since I am doing
> this kind of compaction (not duplicating info that is shown in
> other columns) already in the normal column view (i.e. in
> an Org buffer as opposed to the agenda buffer.  In fact, the
> function doing the compaction is already called, only it does
> not do anything because it is trying to match a headline.
> This can be easily fixed....... DONE.

Wow (again).

> This should now also work in agenda buffers, using the latest
> GIT version.  There is a new variable
> `org-agenda-columns-remove-prefix-from-item' which can be used
> to decide it the prefex should be removed.  The default
> it to remove it in column view, on order to optimize the use
> of the window width.

Works great!  FYI, I have org-columns-default-format set to:

%TODO %PRIORITY %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(ETC){:} %CLOCKSUM(Taken){:} %TAGS(Tags)

I noticed one tiny thing which could be improved - links are rendered
as their raw text.  I guess this will be slightly tricky to handle
since in many cases the text of the link will end up being truncated
by the %40 - but it would be VERY cool if it was handled gracefully,
e.g. by truncating with ellipses.

Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Adam Spiers]

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:09:30AM +0100, Adam Spiers wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:09:31AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > This should now also work in agenda buffers, using the latest
> > GIT version.  There is a new variable
> > `org-agenda-columns-remove-prefix-from-item' which can be used
> > to decide it the prefex should be removed.  The default
> > it to remove it in column view, on order to optimize the use
> > of the window width.
> 
> Works great!  FYI, I have org-columns-default-format set to:
> 
> %TODO %PRIORITY %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(ETC){:} %CLOCKSUM(Taken){:} %TAGS(Tags)
> 
> I noticed one tiny thing which could be improved - links are rendered
> as their raw text.  I guess this will be slightly tricky to handle
> since in many cases the text of the link will end up being truncated
> by the %40 - but it would be VERY cool if it was handled gracefully,
> e.g. by truncating with ellipses.

And one other cosmetic detail: every row in the item column begins
with three spaces, rather than the ideal of one (so that it's close to
but not completely flush with the | inter-column delimiter).

Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

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On May 29, 2008, at 1:11 AM, Adam Spiers wrote:
>
> And one other cosmetic detail: every row in the item column begins
> with three spaces, rather than the ideal of one (so that it's close to
> but not completely flush with the | inter-column delimiter).

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten


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Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

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On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Adam Spiers wrote:
>
> Works great!  FYI, I have org-columns-default-format set to:
>
> %TODO %PRIORITY %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(ETC){:} %CLOCKSUM(Taken){:}  
> %TAGS(Tags)
>
> I noticed one tiny thing which could be improved - links are rendered
> as their raw text.  I guess this will be slightly tricky to handle
> since in many cases the text of the link will end up being truncated
> by the %40 - but it would be VERY cool if it was handled gracefully,
> e.g. by truncating with ellipses.

I cannot have links shown with parts hidden, because column view already
uses display properties, and I don't think you can nest display  
properties.

Ellipses could be done, but so far I opted against is because you will
loose even more characters.  Maybe it is actually better to make sure  
the
user knows that some characters have been removed......  OK, done.

- Carsten


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Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Adam Spiers]

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:49:20AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Adam Spiers wrote:
> >
> >Works great!  FYI, I have org-columns-default-format set to:
> >
> >%TODO %PRIORITY %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(ETC){:} %CLOCKSUM(Taken){:}  
> >%TAGS(Tags)
> >
> >I noticed one tiny thing which could be improved - links are rendered
> >as their raw text.  I guess this will be slightly tricky to handle
> >since in many cases the text of the link will end up being truncated
> >by the %40 - but it would be VERY cool if it was handled gracefully,
> >e.g. by truncating with ellipses.
> 
> I cannot have links shown with parts hidden, because column view already
> uses display properties, and I don't think you can nest display  
> properties.

Hrm :-(

> Ellipses could be done, but so far I opted against is because you
> will loose even more characters.  Maybe it is actually better to
> make sure the user knows that some characters have been
> removed......  OK, done.

Hmm, you have a point about losing characters.  I'm not sure what's
best here.

But now I get an error when entering column view:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil)
  substring("Saturday   28 June 2008" nil)
  (let* ((org-complex-heading-regexp cphr) (prefix ...) (rest ...) (fake ...) (cleaned ...)) (if org-agenda-columns-remove-prefix-from-item cleaned (concat prefix cleaned)))
  org-agenda-columns-cleanu-item("Saturday   28 June 2008" nil nil (("TODO" "TODO" nil nil nil nil) ("PRIORITY" "PRIORITY" nil nil nil nil) ("ITEM" "Task" 40 nil nil nil) ("Effort" "ETC" nil ":" add_times nil) ("CLOCKSUM" "Taken" nil ":" add_times nil) ("TAGS" "Tags" nil nil nil nil)))
  org-columns-display-here((("TODO" . "") ("PRIORITY" . "") ("ITEM" . #("Saturday   28 June 2008" 0 23 ...)) ("Effort" . #("2:15" 0 4 ...)) ("CLOCKSUM" . #("0:00" 0 4 ...)) ("TAGS" . "")))
  byte-code(" [snipped...]
  org-agenda-colview-summarize(((129 ("Effort" . #("1:00" 0 4 ...)) ("TIMESTAMP" . "2008-05-31 Sat 12:30-13:30 +1w") ("ID" . [snipped...]

Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 29, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Adam Spiers wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:49:20AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>> On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Adam Spiers wrote:
>>>
>>> Works great!  FYI, I have org-columns-default-format set to:
>>>
>>> %TODO %PRIORITY %40ITEM(Task) %Effort(ETC){:} %CLOCKSUM(Taken){:}
>>> %TAGS(Tags)
>>>
>>> I noticed one tiny thing which could be improved - links are  
>>> rendered
>>> as their raw text.  I guess this will be slightly tricky to handle
>>> since in many cases the text of the link will end up being truncated
>>> by the %40 - but it would be VERY cool if it was handled gracefully,
>>> e.g. by truncating with ellipses.
>>
>> I cannot have links shown with parts hidden, because column view  
>> already
>> uses display properties, and I don't think you can nest display
>> properties.
>
> Hrm :-(
>
>> Ellipses could be done, but so far I opted against is because you
>> will loose even more characters.  Maybe it is actually better to
>> make sure the user knows that some characters have been
>> removed......  OK, done.
>
> Hmm, you have a point about losing characters.  I'm not sure what's
> best here.

I am now using 2 dots as ellipses, you can customize with with the  
variable
org-columns-ellipses.

>
>
> But now I get an error when entering column view:

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

Re: ITEM in column view in the agenda

[Adam Spiers]

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 06:06:52AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On May 29, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Adam Spiers wrote:
> >On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:49:20AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >>Ellipses could be done, but so far I opted against is because you
> >>will loose even more characters.  Maybe it is actually better to
> >>make sure the user knows that some characters have been
> >>removed......  OK, done.
> >
> >Hmm, you have a point about losing characters.  I'm not sure what's
> >best here.
> 
> I am now using 2 dots as ellipses, you can customize with with the
> variable org-columns-ellipses.

Perfect!  2 dots is a great default.

> >But now I get an error when entering column view:
> 
> Fixed, thanks.

Works a treat - looks beautiful :-)  Many thanks!