From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: INSTALL-CVS Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:26:06 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <16094.11182.414000.952773@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <16086.31800.692970.193443@nick.uklinux.net> <16090.26460.514633.853505@nick.uklinux.net> <200306041442.h54EgTtL025689@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054749457 11529 80.91.224.249 (4 Jun 2003 17:57:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 04 19:57:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19NcVP-0002wn-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 19:56:59 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ncn5-00062U-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:15:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NcOf-0003bX-GG for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:50:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NcFI-0001C8-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Nc4k-0006Ti-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from boden.synopsys.com ([204.176.20.19]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Nc1f-0005G9-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from maiden.synopsys.com (us01-fw3-ext.synopsys.com [204.176.21.196]) by boden.synopsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0CAE6BF; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from DMASTER-LAP.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maiden.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28733; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200306041442.h54EgTtL025689@rum.cs.yale.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.1.1 Original-cc: Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14703 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14703 >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >> David Masterson writes: >> >> |> >>>>> Richard Stallman writes: >> |> >> |> > However, I guess it would be harmless now to change it so that >> |> > top-level `make all' updates the Info files but does not generate >> |> > the DVI files. >> |> >> |> Suggestion -- have the configure script 'touch' the Info files as the >> |> last thing it does if and only if they exist at the time of the >> |> 'configure'. >> >> This is counter-productive, because then if you rerun configure when the >> info files are out-of-date they won't be rebuilt. Is there a configure output file that could be checked for existence (config.log) and don't do the 'touch' in that case? > Agreed. > I think we should simply add `man' to the default target and live > with it. If that means that `makeinfo' is sometimes called when a > user installs Emacs, what's the big deal ? If the problem is that > the user might not have a working `makeinfo', how about running it > with a leading "-" so that an error from `makeinfo' is ignored by > make ? Ignoring the error in 'man' would cause 'install-man' to fail. Perhaps configure should test for a working 'makeinfo' (if it doesn't already) and default to (say) '/bin/true' if no working makeinfo is found? -- David Masterson David DOT Masterson AT synopsys DOT com Sr. R&D Engineer Synopsys, Inc. Software Engineering Sunnyvale, CA