From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: build broken: no defun org-float-time. Who's guilty, and what does he propose? Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:03:29 -0400 Message-ID: <15tyzeinlq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20090907092823.GA3210@muc.de> <83ws4a3b49.fsf@gnu.org> <0C7A6FC6-085D-4B7F-9DC0-FF0493876153@raeburn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252350811 4345 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2009 19:13:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:13:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 21:13:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MkjeT-00075J-Ki for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:13:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42705 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkjeS-0001zs-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkjdi-0000xL-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:12:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkjdd-0000pZ-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38996 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkjdc-0000o9-3B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:44819) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mkjdb-0003cg-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:12:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MkjUw-0001f2-22; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:03:30 -0400 X-Spook: BLU-97 A/B Project Monarch freedom bootleg Fortezza X-Ran: =U~XG0O=|O@SoDLADrV,+~`gY>MG<8|RNep#-V?LVr\A&`2DXdzFiu<#.u0ap8UbfX/jz# X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <0C7A6FC6-085D-4B7F-9DC0-FF0493876153@raeburn.org> (Ken Raeburn's message of "Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:59:07 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115091 Archived-At: >>> A make that removed old .elc files and did bootstrap when needed is >>> the ideal solution. The second part is probably very hard. >> >> What we need IMO is a way to scan all the *.el files, look for >> `require', and generate Make dependencies between Lisp files. Then >> this problem should be gone for good. Or we could just ask Stefan to install the patch he has to prefer .el files while building: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=2061#92 The level of hyperbole in the OP and the subject is rather extreme. Always run `make bootstrap' if you don't want to deal with these issues. Automated build testing is no use, since it cannot come round to your house and type `make bootstrap' for you.