From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 08:45:35 +0000 Message-ID: <15A8D965-34CA-49A1-9157-C1C651AAE73C@gnu.support> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26185"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Anders Munch , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 22 10:48:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3w26-0006dC-9x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 10:48:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40074 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3w24-0004fa-Nd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 04:48:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3w0A-0003Xb-BW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 04:46:18 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:47367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3w08-0002Gz-GB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 04:46:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.160.110.235] ([::ffff:197.239.7.169]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,128bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087C4F.0000000062B2D6B5.00005571; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 01:45:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137982 Archived-At: On June 21, 2022 2:56:59 PM UTC, Anders Munch wrote: >carlmarcos wrote: >> New users do not usually know many keybinding sequences such as `M-n` >to show `DEF`=2E > >I'm not sure why an old user would know M-n either=2E It's not very >discoverable=2E It is in manual for mining history, as long time Emacs user I am using thi= s so often, every day, together with M-p, and I even forgot how I learned i= t=2E Reason that I maybe use it more then average users is that my Dynamic Know= ledge Repository handes database backed selections, for example choice of = a country, or language=2E Jean