From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Doug Lewan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: beginner questions Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:47:49 +0000 Message-ID: <155DEC68569B714B86C2C7075F5EDA9852F95C5A@DAKIYA1.pegasus.local> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380131289 15709 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2013 17:48:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:48:09 +0000 (UTC) To: JohnF , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 25 19:48:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOtC6-0001H3-No for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:48:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54147 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOtC5-00070O-5f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:48:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49964) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOtBr-000707-Lk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOtBn-0003wU-DR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:47:55 -0400 Original-Received: from webmail.shubertorg.com ([207.246.209.200]:25846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOtBn-0003vx-92 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from dakiya1.pegasus.local ([172.16.208.201]) by DAKIYA1.pegasus.local ([172.16.208.201]) with mapi id 14.01.0438.000; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:47:50 -0400 Thread-Topic: beginner questions Thread-Index: AQHOucSblbJRphTCb0mp03ntkx9R3pnWup4w In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.0.21.202] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 7 or 8 X-Received-From: 207.246.209.200 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93576 Archived-At: There's also the emacs reference card (which, of course, overlaps greatly w= ith the cheat sheet). It can be found in /usr/share/emacs/24.3/etc for any = "official" installation. Otherwise, look for the etc/ directory under the v= alue of the `installation-directory' variable. ,Douglas Douglas Lewan Shubert Ticketing (201) 489-8600 ext 224 These are my principles and if you don't like them... well, I have others. = - Groucho Marx -----Original Message----- From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+dougl=3Dshubertticketing.com@gnu.org [mailto:h= elp-gnu-emacs-bounces+dougl=3Dshubertticketing.com@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Jo= hnF Sent: Wednesday, 2013 September 25 03:56 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: beginner questions Can't use my favorite editor any more (long story, don't ask:), and decided to go with emacs. Of course, there are zillions of tutorials, etc, but most are almost-infinitely wordy, whereas I'm comfortable with editors and basically want a cheat sheet. But even they're usually too long, with lots of arcane commands that I'm sure I'll eventually want to know, but not while I'm still trying to remember how to cut-and-paste. So I started making my own forkosh.com/emacs.txt but am having difficulty zeroing in on some info. Most importantly, how to "turn off everything". For example, no html help, e.g., I don't want to see stuff or

stuff

underlined. And really annoying, I don't want the cursor to momentarily jump back to ( after I type (stuff). Ditto , etc. Very distracting (to me). Basically, I just want a dumb editor in the sense that it shouldn't think it knows >>anything<< about the language/syntax I'm writing in, regardless of filename extension. It should just see a stream of uninterpreted characters, unless it sees C- or M- (or something with special emacs significance). And various and sundry minor questions, e.g., what exactly is the undo scope of C-/ and how do you just undo "last keystroke", and no more than that (if last keystroke was a C-y then, okay, undo the entire yank)? Finally, have I missed some tutorial/cheat-sheet-type info designed for my kind of needs -- already familiar with various languages and editors, and just wants to get down to work using emacs? Just wants the 100 or so most used commands "telegraphed", without more extra words than necessary? Thanks, --=20 John Forkosh ( mailto: j@f.com where j=3Djohn and f=3Dforkosh )