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From: Angelo Graziosi <angelo.g0@libero.it>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: info@protesilaos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs master: different (ugly) font in org-mode [Windows, macOS]
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 21:45:02 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1553192207.19756.1633463102315@mail1.libero.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a6jn4gpq.fsf@gnu.org>


> Il 05/10/2021 17:46 Eli Zaretskii ha scritto:
> 
>  
> > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:41:15 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: Angelo Graziosi
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > 
> > > > >> > I use JetBrains Mono font in Emacs and in today build from master, the
> > 
> > > > >> Please try using something like this:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>     (set-face-attribute 'fixed-pitch nil
> > > > >>                         :family (face-attribute 'default :family)
> > > > >>                         :height (face-attribute 'default :height))
> > > > >> 
> > 
> > > I'd like to understand the problem better before we consider solutions
> > > in this area.  What's the problem with "Monospace" on MS-Windows?
> > > which font does that actually use?  ("C-u C-x =" on the text in
> > > question should report the font Emacs uses to display that text.)
> > 
> > When I do not use the above Protesilaos suggestions in the init, "C-u C-x =" on "begin_quote", for example, prints:
> > 
> >              position: 1613 of 4924 (33%), column: 5
> >             character: i (displayed as i) (codepoint 105, #o151, #x69)
> >               charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
> > code point in charset: 0x69
> >                script: latin
> >                syntax: w 	which means: word
> >              category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
> >              to input: type "C-x 8 RET 69" or "C-x 8 RET LATIN SMALL LETTER I"
> >           buffer code: #x69
> >             file code: #x69 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
> >               display: by this font (glyph code):
> >     gdi:-raster-Courier-normal-normal-normal-mono-16-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x69)
> 
> But if JetBrains is the font of the default face, then having Courier
> for a non-default face is expected, and even desired.  So I'm not sure
> I understand your complaint.  Did you expect the fixed-pitch face to


Have you see the screenshots attached here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-10/msg00064.html?

In my opinion Courier is very ugly...


> have the same font as the default face?  If so, it's a wrong
> expectation: we deliberately defined the fixed-pitch face to have a
> different typeface, so that it stands out.

But Courier is ugly! If I remember, Courier is the default font on Windows and it is ugly! In the past, I tried Lucida Console (better than Courier) and Cascadia Code but even this has its own issues (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg01950.html)


> 
> > i.e., it uses Courier NOT JetBrains. On macOS something similar occurs: it uses Courier non Monaco. Instead on GNU/Linux (default font Monospace regular 11):
> > 
> > [...]
> > display: by this font (glyph code):
> >     ftcrhb:-PfEd-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x4C)
> > [...]
> 
> And the default font on GNU/Linux is also DejaVu Sans Mono?

Really Mint uses Monospace 10 and I configured Emacs adding this to the init:

(set-frame-font "Monospace-11" nil t)

(setq default-frame-alist
      '(
        (width . 115) ; character
        (height . 51) ; lines
        ;;(left . (- 0)); pixel
        ;;(top  . (+ 0)); pixel
        (left . 850); pixel
        (top  .   0); pixel
        (font . "Monospace-11") ; font
        ))

Monospace-10 is too small for my eyes!



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-01 21:40 Emacs master: different (ugly) font in org-mode Angelo Graziosi
2021-10-02  4:47 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-10-02  9:08   ` Angelo Graziosi
2021-10-04 19:11   ` Emacs master: different (ugly) font in org-mode [Windows, macOS] Angelo Graziosi
2021-10-04 19:40     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-10-05 11:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-05 13:41         ` Angelo Graziosi
2021-10-05 15:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-05 19:45             ` Angelo Graziosi [this message]
2021-10-06 11:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 12:09                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-10-06 21:06                 ` Angelo Graziosi
2021-10-06 21:40                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-07  4:27                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-10-07  4:57                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-07  5:04                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-10-07  5:24                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-07  5:38                             ` Fwd: " Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20  6:26                               ` Bastien
2022-04-20  5:06                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20  6:12                             ` Bastien
2021-10-07  7:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07  7:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07  7:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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