From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Dokos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.orgmode,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:05:47 -0400 Message-ID: <15036.1287673547@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> References: <87tykgxqbb.fsf@fastmail.fm> <878w1s7zw8.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871v7k7ydt.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <4CC00391.6050608@easy-emacs.de> <87wrpb7unc.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287673720 759 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2010 15:08:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Carsten Dominik , nicholas.dokos@hp.com, Emacs developers To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 17:08:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8wks-0002pW-UK for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:08:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8wks-0004Yb-Cr for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:08:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51838 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8wiV-0003cX-7P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:06:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8wiU-0008NT-0k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:06:06 -0400 Original-Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19]:32966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8wiO-0008Li-Ew; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from gamaville.dokosmarshall.org ([unknown] [173.76.32.106]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LAN004H2B9N5Z50@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net>; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:05:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from gamaville.dokosmarshall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gamaville.dokosmarshall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545DC3441A; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:05:47 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: Message from Tassilo Horn of "Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:38:31 +0200." <87wrpb7unc.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.2; GNU Emacs 24.0.50 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.orgmode:32273 gmane.emacs.devel:131937 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn wrote: > > BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the > > prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. > > Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently > org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places > footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then > footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to > your mail. > How does footnote.el find the signature? I assumed before that signatures are free-form and therefore unfindable algorithmically, but that seems to be a mistake on my part. If that's the case, the mechanism can be grafted into org-footnote.el, perhaps with an expanded meaning of org-footnote-placement: in addition to nil or a string, it can be a symbol, say 'before-signature, and that can be set in an appropriate mail composition hook. Nick _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:05:47 -0400 Message-ID: <15036.1287673547@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> References: <87tykgxqbb.fsf@fastmail.fm> <878w1s7zw8.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871v7k7ydt.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <4CC00391.6050608@easy-emacs.de> <87wrpb7unc.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51838 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8wiV-0003cX-7P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:06:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8wiU-0008NT-0k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:06:06 -0400 In-reply-to: Message from Tassilo Horn of "Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:38:31 +0200." <87wrpb7unc.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Carsten Dominik , nicholas.dokos@hp.com, Emacs developers Tassilo Horn wrote: > > BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the > > prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. > > Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently > org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places > footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then > footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to > your mail. > How does footnote.el find the signature? I assumed before that signatures are free-form and therefore unfindable algorithmically, but that seems to be a mistake on my part. If that's the case, the mechanism can be grafted into org-footnote.el, perhaps with an expanded meaning of org-footnote-placement: in addition to nil or a string, it can be a symbol, say 'before-signature, and that can be set in an appropriate mail composition hook. Nick