From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mike Kupfer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:19:30 -0700 Message-ID: <15012.1530976770@alto> References: <20180629073602.GA21394@sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530976688 25366 195.159.176.226 (7 Jul 2018 15:18:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 15:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kurn@sfu.ca, 32002@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com, rpluim@gmail.com To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 07 17:18:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fboyH-0006PC-Kq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 17:18:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbp0O-0004b9-Q2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbp0H-0004aX-Ds for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbp0E-0005RB-9H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbp0E-0005Qv-5h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbp0D-0006nf-Pd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:20:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mike Kupfer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 15:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32002 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 32002-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32002.153097678226107 (code B ref 32002); Sat, 07 Jul 2018 15:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32002) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2018 15:19:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbozt-0006n0-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:19:42 -0400 Original-Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:17993 ident=root) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbozr-0006mo-MT for 32002@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: from alto (96-95-200-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.95.200.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id w67FJUvW036606 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Jul 2018 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 96-95-200-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.95.200.133] claimed to be alto In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jul 2018 09:47:03 +0200." <5B406FF7.7010709@gmx.at> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 26.1 Content-ID: <15011.1530976770.1@alto> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148304 Archived-At: martin rudalics wrote: > Maybe Mike's theme doesn't show the arrow keys or the mouse position > gets interpreted wrongly. I'm not sure what you mean by "arrow keys". Is this the same thing as the "stepper buttons" I've been referring to? > At least his "right-click in the scrollbar > above or below the thumb (slider)" is a misinterpretation of how > scroll bars are supposed to behave. Such clicks should be interpreted > as "jumps" as I tried to explain elsewhere. https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkScrollbar.html is the closest I've found to documentation on how a (GTK3) scrollbar is supposed to behave. I do not see that it says what should happen if the user right-clicks. So I am not convinced that I have misinterpreted anything. I did test my right-click idea on gedit before posting it, and a single right-click in the scroll area behaved the same as left-clicking on the corresponding stepper button. I have found some discussion at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1495520, which suggests that right-click is intended for smooth scrolling--at least in some versions of GTK3. And I see that right-click-and-hold does produce smooth scrolling on gedit, though I'm unable to get the variable-speed effect mentioned at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1495520#c9. Could it make a difference that I've been using MATE and Cinnamon for testing? Anyway, my original comments were about the behavior of Emacs when I click on a stepper button. I would be happy to limit future discussion to that use case. mike