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From: Mike Kupfer <mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: kurn@sfu.ca, 32002@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com, rpluim@gmail.com
Subject: bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:19:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15012.1530976770@alto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jul 2018 09:47:03 +0200." <5B406FF7.7010709@gmx.at>

martin rudalics wrote:

> Maybe Mike's theme doesn't show the arrow keys or the mouse position
> gets interpreted wrongly.

I'm not sure what you mean by "arrow keys".  Is this the same thing as
the "stepper buttons" I've been referring to?

> At least his "right-click in the scrollbar
> above or below the thumb (slider)" is a misinterpretation of how
> scroll bars are supposed to behave.  Such clicks should be interpreted
> as "jumps" as I tried to explain elsewhere.

https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkScrollbar.html is the closest
I've found to documentation on how a (GTK3) scrollbar is supposed to
behave.  I do not see that it says what should happen if the user
right-clicks.  So I am not convinced that I have misinterpreted
anything.  I did test my right-click idea on gedit before posting it,
and a single right-click in the scroll area behaved the same as
left-clicking on the corresponding stepper button.

I have found some discussion at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1495520, which suggests that
right-click is intended for smooth scrolling--at least in some versions
of GTK3.  And I see that right-click-and-hold does produce smooth
scrolling on gedit, though I'm unable to get the variable-speed effect
mentioned at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1495520#c9.

Could it make a difference that I've been using MATE and Cinnamon for
testing?

Anyway, my original comments were about the behavior of Emacs when I
click on a stepper button.  I would be happy to limit future discussion
to that use case.

mike





  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-07 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-29  7:36 bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct Andrew Kurn
2018-06-29  8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <20180629162402.GA21197@sfu.ca>
2018-06-29 17:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-01  1:30       ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-02 18:16         ` Glenn Morris
2018-07-02 18:20           ` Glenn Morris
2018-07-03 12:58           ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-04  2:00             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-04  3:45               ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-04  4:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-04  5:13                 ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-04  5:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-04 16:32                     ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-04 23:36                       ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-04 23:44                         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-04 23:56                           ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-05  2:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05  5:28                               ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-05  6:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:05                                   ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-06  3:58                                     ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-06  6:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 10:32                                         ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 12:56                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-07-06 13:31                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07  7:15                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-07-07  7:35                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07  7:47                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-07-07 15:19                                                     ` Mike Kupfer [this message]
2018-07-07 15:59                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:05                                                         ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-08  3:00                                                           ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-07 16:00                                                       ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-08  8:11                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-07-09  1:42                                                         ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-09  2:53                                                           ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-09  8:34                                                             ` martin rudalics
2018-07-09  8:34                                                           ` martin rudalics
2018-07-09 14:39                                                             ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-10  7:30                                                               ` martin rudalics
2018-07-14  4:31                                                                 ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-14  8:00                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2018-07-21  0:28                                                                     ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-21  7:44                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2018-07-14  4:13                                                             ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-06 15:02                                           ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-06 16:02                                             ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-07  7:17                                             ` martin rudalics
2018-07-04  7:49                   ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-04  9:30                     ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-04 12:10                     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-04 16:34                     ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-10 19:16 ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-11  3:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12  7:11     ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-12 13:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 15:57         ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-12 16:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14  4:56         ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-14  6:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14  8:01             ` martin rudalics
2018-07-21 13:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-22  7:25                 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-22 14:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-23  6:51                     ` martin rudalics
2018-07-27  8:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-27  9:23                     ` martin rudalics
2018-07-27 11:03                       ` Andrew Kurn
2018-07-27 12:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-28  7:22                           ` martin rudalics
2018-07-29  2:51                             ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-16  1:47             ` Mike Kupfer
2018-07-21 13:53               ` Eli Zaretskii

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