From: Paul Rankin <hello@paulwrankin.com>
To: "Jean-Christophe Helary" <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 01:09:35 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1500563375.1447781.1047194952.13AB5B22@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0AFD4ECC-01D3-47A8-9F49-217983964DDC@gmail.com>
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017, at 12:47 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>
> > On Jul 20, 2017, at 23:36, Paul Rankin <hello@paulwrankin.com> wrote:
> >
> > Owning a thing, and having rights to that thing as if you
> > owned it, are not the same thing.
>
> My understanding is that assigning copyright to the FSF means that you own your thing and allow the FSF to own a copy. It is not at all what you describe.
As it stands in the various international copyright treaties, assigning
copyright to another person or entity means assigning ownership. Owning
a copy is provided through a licence, e.g. owning Iron Man on DVD.
> For all practical purposes, what you describe above is two
> legally/symbolically/philosophically equivalent things.
To me this is feels internally contradictory.... I don't think practical
purposes can be taken to provide symbolic equivalency.... but, the whole
issue I'm trying to get across is with reducing copyright to its
practical purpose (or a subset thereof). If we are reducing all things
to their practical purposes, then yes, of course owning a thing and
having all the same rights to that thing can be called equivalent. But
to reframe my earlier point, the practical purposes of a thing do not
entail the thing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-20 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-20 12:29 Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 12:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-20 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 13:49 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 14:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-24 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-20 14:01 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 14:36 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 14:47 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 15:09 ` Paul Rankin [this message]
2017-07-20 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 15:58 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-21 11:21 ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-07-20 14:27 ` John Wiegley
2017-07-20 15:19 ` Stephen Berman
2017-07-20 16:19 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-07-24 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-24 3:05 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-07-25 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-20 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-07-08 1:59 John Wiegley
2017-07-08 10:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-08 12:57 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-08 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 22:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-08 22:50 ` Tim Cross
2017-07-10 9:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 15:07 ` Jean Louis
2017-07-10 9:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-09 0:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-10 2:07 ` Chad Brown
2017-07-10 9:27 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 13:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-11 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 15:00 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-11 18:01 ` John Wiegley
2017-07-11 18:37 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-11 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 7:56 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-12 16:12 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 23:12 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-13 12:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 19:12 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-15 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-17 8:16 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-24 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 15:36 ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-10 23:32 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 14:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-09 3:04 ` Yann Hodique
2017-07-10 9:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 15:41 ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-10 23:30 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 16:48 ` Yann Hodique
2017-07-10 20:43 ` Joost Kremers
2017-07-11 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 0:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-12 16:13 ` Richard Stallman
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