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* bug#42325: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Incomplete keymap in Bookmark Menu mode description
@ 2020-07-11 19:15 Matthias Meulien
  2020-07-11 20:28 ` Drew Adams
  2020-07-18  7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Meulien @ 2020-07-11 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 42325

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When one call describe-mode from *Bookmark List* buffer, the 
displayed documentation for the Bookmark Menu major mode displays 
an incomplete hard-coded keymap: The useful key / 
(bookmark-bmenu-search) isn't listed. I propose to rely on 
derived-mode-make-docstring to put the mode's keymap in mode 
docstring and to remove the currently hardcoded keymap 
description.


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From e45b340980c9f347f4a2f0615006617bafd93260 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 20:55:59 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Fix incomplete keymap description

* lisp/bookmark.el (bookmark-bmenu-mode):
  Rely on derived-mode-make-docstring to put the mode's keymap in mode
  docstring
---
 lisp/bookmark.el | 31 +------------------------------
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 30 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/bookmark.el b/lisp/bookmark.el
index 5bb1698171..cf8d6e3241 100644
--- a/lisp/bookmark.el
+++ b/lisp/bookmark.el
@@ -1745,36 +1745,7 @@ bookmark-bmenu-mode
   "Major mode for editing a list of bookmarks.
 Each line describes one of the bookmarks in Emacs.
 Letters do not insert themselves; instead, they are commands.
-Bookmark names preceded by a \"*\" have annotations.
-\\<bookmark-bmenu-mode-map>
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-mark] -- mark bookmark to be displayed.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-select] -- select bookmark of line point is on.
-  Also show bookmarks marked using m in other windows.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-toggle-filenames] -- toggle displaying of filenames (they may obscure long bookmark names).
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-locate] -- display (in minibuffer) location of this bookmark.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-1-window] -- select this bookmark in full-frame window.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-2-window] -- select this bookmark in one window,
-  together with bookmark selected before this one in another window.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-this-window] -- select this bookmark in place of the bookmark menu buffer.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-other-window] -- select this bookmark in another window,
-  so the bookmark menu bookmark remains visible in its window.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-other-frame] -- select this bookmark in another frame.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-switch-other-window] -- switch the other window to this bookmark.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-rename] -- rename this bookmark (prompts for new name).
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-relocate] -- relocate this bookmark's file (prompts for new file).
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-delete] -- mark this bookmark to be deleted, and move down.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-delete-backwards] -- mark this bookmark to be deleted, and move up.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-execute-deletions] -- delete bookmarks marked with `\\[bookmark-bmenu-delete]'.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-save] -- save the current bookmark list in the default file.
-  With a prefix arg, prompts for a file to save in.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-load] -- load in a file of bookmarks (prompts for file.)
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-unmark] -- remove all kinds of marks from current line.
-  With prefix argument, also move up one line.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-backup-unmark] -- back up a line and remove marks.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-show-annotation] -- show the annotation, if it exists, for the current bookmark
-  in another buffer.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-show-all-annotations] -- show the annotations of all bookmarks in another buffer.
-\\[bookmark-bmenu-edit-annotation] -- edit the annotation for the current bookmark."
+Bookmark names preceded by a \"*\" have annotations."
   (setq truncate-lines t)
   (setq buffer-read-only t))
 
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2.20.1


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* bug#42325: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Incomplete keymap in Bookmark Menu mode description
  2020-07-11 19:15 bug#42325: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Incomplete keymap in Bookmark Menu mode description Matthias Meulien
@ 2020-07-11 20:28 ` Drew Adams
  2020-07-18  7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2020-07-11 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthias Meulien, 42325

> When one call describe-mode from *Bookmark List* buffer, the
> displayed documentation for the Bookmark Menu major mode displays
> an incomplete hard-coded keymap: The useful key /
> (bookmark-bmenu-search) isn't listed. I propose to rely on
> derived-mode-make-docstring to put the mode's keymap in mode
> docstring and to remove the currently hardcoded keymap
> description.

That's definitely a step backward, IMHO.

Just add `/' to the list.

A mode's `C-h m' documentation can, but need not,
list all of its key bindings.  (It can also tell
users that they can use `C-h b'.)

But more importantly, it should describe the mode,
not just punt to say that it inherits from its
parent.

The doc of `derived-mode-make-docstring' should,
and I think does, make clear that it provides only
rudimentary, fallback help in the (hopefully rare)
case where there is no other such help.

 "Construct a docstring for a new mode
  if none is provided."
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It doesn't say that it's a good idea to not
provide a doc string for a derived mode, and to
instead use this to construct one.  Thank goodness.

Providing a doc string is normal.  Not providing
one is to be avoided, and IMO, is a bug from a
user point of view.

There's little excuse for copping out and not
providing a doc string.  There's even less excuse
for doing that for a mode's doc.  And there's still
less excuse for _replacing_ hand-written help with
such a poor, generic, robotic fallback.

Please just do the right thing, adding the help
you think is missing.  And provide whatever other
manual updates you think might help.


[To be clear, this doesn't affect me or my code.
Bookmark+ doesn't use the mode help provided by
vanilla bookmark.el.  I'm just expressing my
concern for vanilla Emacs here.]





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* bug#42325: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Incomplete keymap in Bookmark Menu mode description
  2020-07-11 19:15 bug#42325: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Incomplete keymap in Bookmark Menu mode description Matthias Meulien
  2020-07-11 20:28 ` Drew Adams
@ 2020-07-18  7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2020-07-18  9:59   ` Matthias Meulien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-07-18  7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthias Meulien; +Cc: 42325-done

> From: Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 21:15:57 +0200
> 
> When one call describe-mode from *Bookmark List* buffer, the 
> displayed documentation for the Bookmark Menu major mode displays 
> an incomplete hard-coded keymap: The useful key / 
> (bookmark-bmenu-search) isn't listed. I propose to rely on 
> derived-mode-make-docstring to put the mode's keymap in mode 
> docstring and to remove the currently hardcoded keymap 
> description.

Thanks.

As Drew points out, there's no need to show the entire set of
commands, so I just added '/' to the list.





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* bug#42325: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Incomplete keymap in Bookmark Menu mode description
  2020-07-18  7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-07-18  9:59   ` Matthias Meulien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Meulien @ 2020-07-18  9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 42325-done

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Thank you.

Le sam. 18 juil. 2020 09:55, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> a écrit :

> > From: Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 21:15:57 +0200
> >
> > When one call describe-mode from *Bookmark List* buffer, the
> > displayed documentation for the Bookmark Menu major mode displays
> > an incomplete hard-coded keymap: The useful key /
> > (bookmark-bmenu-search) isn't listed. I propose to rely on
> > derived-mode-make-docstring to put the mode's keymap in mode
> > docstring and to remove the currently hardcoded keymap
> > description.
>
> Thanks.
>
> As Drew points out, there's no need to show the entire set of
> commands, so I just added '/' to the list.
>

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