From: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?"
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:21:33 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14bebcfe-2311-4bb3-8154-4cc803962c71@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871u6dpjar.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se>
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:09:08 PM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>
> Yes, a struct is just a memory pattern. You are saying, a Lisp
> list isn't - is it moving around in memory, is it fragmented, or
> is allocation made dynamically based on the elements? Is that the
> difference? With pointers, isn't that what you get in C? Please
> explain.
Well... I dont know if this is the best forum for these discussions :-)
In short: A language becomes more powerful when it has less...
Think of registers and interrupts disappearing from assembly to C, making C better than assembly in 95% use-cases. Now if you were an assembly programmer, you would pooh-pooh a C (like) language: "How can having less make it a better language?"
It makes it better because one's thoughts have more clarity.
You may remember the quote from Bruce Lee: I am not afraid of the man who knows 10 thousand kicks. I am afraid of the man who has practiced one kick 10 thousand times. Likewise in programming, doing few things well gets you further than doing many things sub-optimally.
And so assignment disappearing from C to haskell makes haskell programmers able to have better thoughts [Well they say 100% of the time; I say 80% of the time ;-) ]
I could go on eg why lisp can be C-like or haskell-like depending on how you use it etc etc. Or answering
> Are you saying: C doesn't have hash tables, search trees, etc.,
> you have to make them yourself with data types and pointers, and
> put them into structs, and then have the algorithm traverse them,
> and all this you do manually, with no support from the language?
However as I said this is getting too too OT for this group.
If you want we can continue off-list.
Do read my blog though http://blog.languager.org/ in case you find may my ideas painful to your delicate digestion :-)
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2013-07-29 13:05 Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" Emanuel Berg
2013-07-29 14:46 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-30 10:10 ` Chris Van Dusen
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2013-07-30 22:09 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-29 15:37 ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-29 16:01 ` Phillip Lord
2013-07-30 6:27 ` Luca Ferrari
2013-07-30 15:22 ` Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
2013-07-30 15:31 ` Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
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2013-07-30 16:44 ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-30 18:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 18:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 11:38 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-30 11:47 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-30 11:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-29 19:38 ` Barry Margolin
2013-07-30 12:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 12:27 ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-30 14:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-07-30 15:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 21:19 ` Barry Margolin
2013-07-30 21:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-31 4:47 ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-31 6:23 ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-31 18:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-31 19:19 ` drain
2013-07-31 19:20 ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-01 14:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-01 15:21 ` Rustom Mody [this message]
2013-08-01 15:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-01 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-08-01 16:08 ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-01 16:43 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-08-01 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-08-01 20:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-03 1:01 ` drain
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2013-08-03 10:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-04 21:23 ` drain
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2013-08-05 8:36 ` LaTeX (was: Re: Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?") Emanuel Berg
2013-08-01 16:31 ` Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" Emanuel Berg
2013-08-01 16:18 ` Drew Adams
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2013-08-01 16:33 ` Barry Margolin
2013-08-01 17:52 ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-01 16:41 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-08-01 14:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-01 15:19 ` Luca Ferrari
2013-08-01 18:40 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-08-01 20:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 15:34 ` Phillip Lord
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2013-07-30 16:53 ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-31 0:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-31 12:10 ` Phillip Lord
2013-07-31 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-08-01 7:40 ` R development environment Sebastien Vauban
2013-08-01 10:44 ` Phillip Lord
2013-07-31 0:47 ` Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" gottlieb
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2013-07-31 0:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 21:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30 10:10 ` Emanuel Berg
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