From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:53:28 +0100 Message-ID: <14A1BD50-FB4A-4468-919F-43ECA3B9B372@swipnet.se> References: <4EEB48B2.9090602@swipnet.se> <83liqc1tac.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwgk1atk.fsf@gnu.org> <4EEBE0DC.1050803@cs.ucla.edu> <5CAFED3B-F63C-404F-ABD2-A9C3653D8F8E@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324144419 20712 80.91.229.12 (17 Dec 2011 17:53:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adrian Robert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 17 18:53:36 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RbyRz-0008AR-TC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:53:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbyRz-0000Qu-7b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:53:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbyRw-0000Qe-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:53:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbyRv-0000zb-5d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:37842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbyRu-0000xd-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFC995B1 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:53:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 21075 invoked by uid 89); 17 Dec 2011 17:52:52 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 17 Dec 2011 17:52:52 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E042A7FA058; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:53:28 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 62.20.26.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146783 Archived-At: 17 dec 2011 kl. 18:30 skrev Adrian Robert: > Jan Dj=E4rv swipnet.se> writes: >=20 >> The NS build needs a lot of work >>> (by someone who knows what they're doing) before it'd be >>> anything I'd want my daughter to use, if I had a daughter. >>=20 >> It is a mess. It seems some code was done by someone not >> familiar with objective-C. >> Global variables are used >> instead of putting them in a class for instance. >=20 >=20 > This kind of thing is the result of walking a line between > keeping code similar to other terms that don't interface to OO > GUIs, and doing what's natural from OO perspective. And a long > accretive development thrown on top of that. The long development time is the main cause I think. It is hard to not have these kinds of problems after a while. Jan D.