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From: "Mark H. David" <mhd@yv.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is there a sane way to type Hebrew with nikud with Emacs 25/Mac?
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:02:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481151750.3863289.811957801.45609D8B@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1cEjEt-0006MX-Kx@fencepost.gnu.org>

It's similarly a bummer on GNU/Linux with a PC keyboard.

Straightforward way to try it:
  Add Hebrew language keyboard in your modern GUI in the GNU/Linux-y way.
  Fire up emacs, go to scratch buffer
  Switch keyboard to "he" (Hebrew keyboard)
  Type keys with caps: ASDF - 4 Hebrew letters show up: שדגכ
  Type ctrl+b, meaning backward-char. Doesn't work, you get: "C-נ is undefined".

נ is the Hebrew character you get when you type the keycap B.

I tried this on Emacs 24. I'm sure it's the same on Emacs 25 in this respect.

By the way, my keyboard switching key is assigned to Windows+Space [hold down "Windows" key while typing the space bar], so when I type Windows+Space, Emacs says "s-SPC is undefined".  The system correctly intercepts my typing Windows+Space and switches the keyboard, but something is wrong there: it should not even be seeing that key. Hopefully that's fixed upstream. I'll check another day.

Thanks,

Mark

----- Original message -----
From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Mark H. David" <mhd@yv.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is there a sane way to type Hebrew with nikud with Emacs 25/Mac?
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:54:55 -0500

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  > This relies heavily on using the Mac keyboard's option key, since
  > that's used for typing Hebrew character combinations, which
  > involves inserting Unicode characters from the Hebrew range as a
  > sequence of two characters: a base Hebrew character plus a
  > diacritic character, known as nikud, the combination of which I'm
  > calling here collectively "Hebrew with nikud".

What about when not using a Mac keyboard?  How good is our support
for this feature on ordinary PC keyboards with the GNU/Linux system?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-07 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-06 20:32 Is there a sane way to type Hebrew with nikud with Emacs 25/Mac? Mark H. David
2016-12-06 21:10 ` David Caldwell
2016-12-06 22:04   ` Mark H. David
2016-12-07 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-07 23:02   ` Mark H. David [this message]
2016-12-08  3:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-12 21:09       ` Mark H. David
2016-12-13  3:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-13 21:27         ` Juri Linkov
2016-12-13 23:41           ` Mark H. David
2016-12-14 22:05             ` Juri Linkov
2016-12-08 20:36     ` Richard Stallman

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