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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: 1) (elisp) `Advising Named Functions', 2) search filtering example
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 10:05:51 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14560de9-7ab9-4d97-80dd-d4b84274affb@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwph7asbo.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>

> > Applying macro `add-function' to `isearch-filter-predicate'
> > advises the value - the function itself.
> No.
> 
> > It does not just point the variable to a different value
> > (function).
> Yes it does.

OK.

> > `(symbol-function isearch-filter-predicate)' returns an advice
> > (an object that satisfies "internal" predicate `advice--p').
> 
> No, it returns nil because this symbol is not defined as a function.

I did not quote that symbol.  But yes, you get an error because
the value of the variable is _not_ a symbol (anymore) - it is now
an advice object (an advised function, I was calling it).  It is a
thingy such as this - an advice of function `isearch-filter-visible'.

#[128 <some-byte-code> [apply (lambda (b e) (save-excursion
(goto-char e) (eolp))) isearch-filter-visible ((name . "eol")
(isearch-message-prefix . "eol, "))] 4 nil]

Dunno what you want to call such a thing.  I was calling it
an advised function (in this case, `isearch-filter-visible')
and an advice of that function, but yes, that function is not
advised outside this context - it is only variable
`isearch-filter-predicate' that uses that thingy.

To me, the new advice doc is not as helpful as it should be,
and the thingies dealt with are not clear or clearly presented.
Even the resort to "internalizing" functions such as `advice--p'
and `advice--cd*r' seems unfortunate.

I'm sure you understand it all very well, and no doubt there
are things about it that I do not understand well.  If you
cannot or will not, I'm still hoping that someone else will
improve the doc and make things clearer, for all.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-17 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-17  5:25 1) (elisp) `Advising Named Functions', 2) search filtering example Drew Adams
2016-10-17 12:20 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-17 14:02   ` Drew Adams
2016-10-17 14:37     ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-17 14:52       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-17 15:40         ` Drew Adams
2016-10-17 15:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-17 17:05             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-10-17 17:47               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-17 15:40       ` Drew Adams
2016-10-17 16:16         ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-17 17:05           ` Drew Adams
2016-10-17 17:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-17 18:41               ` Drew Adams
2016-10-17 19:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-18 19:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-19  6:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-19 20:00                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-19 20:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-20  7:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20  7:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20 18:06                           ` Richard Stallman

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