From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tjernlund Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: default-frame-alist vs. initial-frame-alist Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: <1414168687.20031.13.camel@jocke.my.home> References: <1414093587.20031.6.camel@jocke.my.home> <83d29i6k8b.fsf@gnu.org> <834mut7gyt.fsf@gnu.org> <831tpx7e08.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414171765 15617 80.91.229.3 (24 Oct 2014 17:29:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 19:29:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhifs-0003np-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:29:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhifr-0002TR-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhhsb-0006r0-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:38:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhhsT-0002ps-A1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay7.public.one.com ([91.198.169.215]:53431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhhsS-0002pK-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:38:13 -0400 X-HalOne-Cookie: 6930c398fe8c1871445e1af76dba8c409b03e18f DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tjernlund.se; s=20140924; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=9pYeJ5F5C9GPwM+4K0+4SwDi4G1Eqs4MbSBYlOY+VRs=; b=bGV8LVxSUijMtDaGt+SpzaeYhJzi0DD2kyJjqMcIvf/Qef6MIqrQ2PjVAwBNU7r/D8kbsamQAgiza HLZe1a7CFOU1ZyrH2MTtnVnsZnnQwiC/shqify1SZQSGJaQP9PHIjA/hdpUFzF53pYtp4JIpgVjwpR NOVklAQHNyX2qIfo= Original-Received: from [192.168.0.57] (unknown [178.174.211.18]) by smtpfilter4.public.one.com (Halon Mail Gateway) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:37:06 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <831tpx7e08.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 91.198.169.215 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:29:13 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175786 Archived-At: On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 17:12 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Stefan Monnier > > Cc: tjernlund@tjernlund.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:51:08 -0400 > > > > > I'm quite sure the OP customized the list from .emacs, not from the > > > command line. See the original message, which clearly shows that. > > > > I still don't understand: if I do > > > > echo '(setq default-frame-alist (quote ((background-color . "blue") (font . "fixed"))))' >~/tmp/.emacs; HOME=$HOME/tmp emacs > > > > I get the same result: a blue background and an ugly font, both on the > > initial frame and on subsequent ones I might create with C-x 5 2. > > Then whoever made this change in behavior failed to update the > documentation, which still says what I wrote. Try my example: Nothing gets me: White background, Black text Only (setq default-frame-alist '((background-color . "#333333") (foreground-color . "White") (cursor-color . "White"))) gets White background, White text Both: Green background, White text I find it asymmetric that with only default-frame-alist changes foreground, but not background nor cursor Jocke