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From: Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Daniel Martín" <mardani29@yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: Grammar checking in Emacs
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 07:28:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14139634.W7bVFoZECn@galex-713.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv5ysu41b3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Le lundi 15 novembre 2021, 03:46:19 CET Stefan Monnier a écrit :
> > The question is if those feelings about grammar checking still hold
> > true.  I think one of the most popular free programs to do grammar
> > checking is LanguageTool (https://languagetool.org).  I've quickly
> > tested it and it detected some non-trivial grammar mistakes, in
> > English
> > and Spanish at least.  I didn't see false positives, which is a good
> > thing in this kind of tools.  You can try the tool from its website
> > without installing it on your computer.
> 
> IIUC (after looking at https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool)
> this is structured as a grammar-checking server (written in Java) that
> can run on a remote host and then client applications connect to it and
> presumably send their text to it a bit like they'd do with an LSP
> server, except the clients aren't expected to launch the server.
> 
> Sadly it's not packaged for Debian (see
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403619 suggests for
> the details).  I can't see any info about using it on Fedora either.
> AFAICT the most popular way to install it is as a "snap" package, which
> I consider to be a euphemism for a blob :-(

a very heavy and hype blob

> > Is there interest in having this feature in Emacs?  Perhaps as an ELPA
> > package, if the technology is not mature enough to have it in Core?
> 
> I think it would be nice to provide a package for such grammar checking,
> yes.  We should be careful not to encourage users to just connect to
> someone else's LaguageTool server, since that would be SaaSS, but other
> than that I see no reason not to have such a package in GNU ELPA. I
> don't expect many users to have such a server, so it's probably not
> widespread enough to justify having it in core, currently.

I wonder if the increasing tendency to write software extensions as 
servers instead of libraries is calculated not only to promote SaaSS and 
dependency, but even to promote a way of interfacing software that allows 
circumventing copyleft…




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-16  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m1zgq6xon7.fsf.ref@yahoo.es>
2021-11-15  0:12 ` Grammar checking in Emacs Daniel Martín
2021-11-15  2:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-15  8:16     ` tomas
2021-11-15 22:43     ` Peter Oliver
2021-11-15 23:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-16 18:01         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-11-16 18:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-17  3:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-19 21:51         ` Peter Oliver
2021-11-17  4:13       ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-19 22:14         ` Peter Oliver
2021-11-16  4:06     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-16 11:32       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-16 14:28         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-16 22:49           ` Tim Cross
2021-11-16 23:29             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-16  6:28     ` Alexandre Garreau [this message]
2021-11-16 14:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-16 15:43         ` tomas
2021-11-18  3:51         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-16  8:23     ` tomas
2021-11-15 19:45   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-11-17  4:12     ` Richard Stallman

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