From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: drain Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1375491700810-293981.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <878v0oxfdw.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87a9l4rs76.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <39e6407d-c4fd-4dc1-b47f-a1ba4119c7cb@googlegroups.com> <87iozqzjjq.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871u6dpjar.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <14bebcfe-2311-4bb3-8154-4cc803962c71@googlegroups.com> <6be5c9a9-ba78-4169-8020-aa9e4c30a759@googlegroups.com> <87fvut16j9.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375491719 7337 80.91.229.3 (3 Aug 2013 01:01:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 01:01:59 +0000 (UTC) To: Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 03 03:02:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V5QEM-000594-2T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 03:02:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5QEL-0001gw-Js for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5QE7-0001f6-Ey for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5QE2-0006pd-Og for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:51973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5QE2-0006pP-Kd for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:01:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V5QE0-0006GL-QZ for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87fvut16j9.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92684 Archived-At: > Isn't a thesis something LaTeX would be the natural choice for, > with its from-the-shelf support for a ToC, headers (of all sorts), > footnotes, references, etc.? Of which so much is automated to a > very high degree? I prefer the minimalism of org-mode. LaTex clutters the buffer with code. Secondly, I don't even like the output. I wish all books would be printed org-mode documents. Clean and pure. Org-mode should be the standard visual grammar. > Yes, I think videos are great for this! At least if the person who > makes the video has the real Emacs fingers, moving the cursor at > Jedi-master speed, killing, yanking, filling, other window, > reading mail, sending a Usenet post, evaluating some Elisp defun, > 1-2-3, KO. Irresistible to any and all true techno-warriors. Yes, I often treat my videos as performances: like speed runs of Quake. Although not quite, since Emacs has better gameplay. > I[f] done well, I don't think there even need to be a speaker's voice > explaining what happens. Just the sound from the keyboard and some > techno-eurodisco-trance song to get the bloodlust going. I have a scratch.org buffer I continuously switch to: I use this to explain what I am doing (and also to showoff rapid buffer switching). I /hate/ videos with any music though. The point is, Emacs should speak for itself. -- View this message in context: http://emacs.1067599.n5.nabble.com/Emacs-history-and-Is-Emacs-difficult-to-learn-tp293486p293981.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.