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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153095 Archived-At: --982305775-1226980069-1346920414=:62447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This posting may miss the spirit of this thread but anyhow:=0A=0AHave you t= ried using Conkeror (http://www.conkeror.org/)?=0A=0AAs far as I understand= this is based on xulrunner, but it behaves like Emacs.=0A=0ABecause it is = based on xulrunner it is a fully featured HTML-browser (Java Script, CSS, c= ookies, forms etc. support).=A0 Normally I have an Emacs instance and Conke= ror instance open, and because it behaves like Emacs I sometimes forget tha= t I am interacting with the browser.=0A=0AWouldn=B4t it be much more in the= UNIX-kind of spirit to not reinvent the wheel but to use and combine the t= ools all ready existing?=A0 Which means would it not be better to work on a= really good interface between Emacs and Conkerer and relieve yourself of t= he work involving the maintenance of top notch Java Script, CSS interpreter= s etc..=A0 For me it would be enough to have excellent access to the html-s= ource, the DOM-tree, Java Script code, CSS files, cookies etc. in an Emacs = buffers, and have the page rendered by Conkeror.=0A=0AKind regards Stefan= =0A --982305775-1226980069-1346920414=:62447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This posting may miss the s= pirit of this thread but anyhow:

Have you tried using Conkeror (http= ://www.conkeror.org/)?

As far as I understand this is based on xulru= nner, but it behaves like Emacs.

Because it is based on xulrunner it= is a fully featured HTML-browser (Java Script, CSS, cookies, forms etc. su= pport).  Normally I have an Emacs instance and Conkeror instance open,= and because it behaves like Emacs I sometimes forget that I am interacting= with the browser.

Wouldn=B4t it be much more in the UNIX-kind of sp= irit to not reinvent the wheel but to use and combine the tools all ready e= xisting?  Which means would it not be better to work on a really good = interface between Emacs and Conkerer and relieve yourself of the work invol= ving the maintenance of top notch Java Script, CSS interpreters etc..  For me it would be enough to have excellent access to the html= -source, the DOM-tree, Java Script code, CSS files, cookies etc. in an Emac= s buffers, and have the page rendered by Conkeror.

Kind regards Stef= an
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