From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ikumi Keita Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61211: 28.2; Feature request; facility for dispatch type major mode Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 21:28:07 +0900 Message-ID: <13351.1675254487@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7497"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier To: 61211@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 01 13:29:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCEt-0001cF-LE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 13:29:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCEa-0007r1-Ra; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:29:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCEZ-0007qp-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCEY-0007O9-P6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCEY-0002KE-Ir; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:29:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ikumi Keita Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 12:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 61211 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: Stefan Monnier Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16752545038887 (code B ref -1); Wed, 01 Feb 2023 12:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2023 12:28:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCDu-0002JH-Mv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:28:23 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCDq-0002J6-Ce for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCDo-0007kg-Qm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNCDk-0007Dp-Ow for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 07:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (42-144-46-173.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.46.173]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1CAFB5C for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:28:08 +0900 (JST) X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 28.2 Content-ID: <13349.1675254487.1@localhost> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=210.129.88.11; envelope-from=ikumi@ikumi.que.jp; helo=smtp1a.inetd.co.jp X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:254572 Archived-At: I'd like to discuss dispatch functions or "superficial" major modes. AUCTeX has the following major mode functions: context-en-mode, context-nl-mode, japanese-latex-mode, japanese-plain-tex-= mode They only do language-specific set-ups and turn into context-mode, latex-mode or plain-tex-mode eventually. In some aspects, they are similar with dispatch functions `tex--guess-mode' and `TeX-tex-mode' (AUCTeX) which guess a proper major mode and call it: - They can be specified as `mode' tag of file local variable and entry of `auto-mode-alist'. - They never hold their own `major-mode' value. - When called, they eventually turn into another proper major mode. For these reasons, they can be called "superficial" major modes. Note that it isn't enough to define them like (define-derived-mode japanese-latex-mode latex-mode "LaTeX" ... (setq major-mode 'latex-mode) ...) because it doesn't respond to directory local variable entry of the form ((japanese-latex-mode ...)) in that case. So I hope emacs to have facility to handle such superficial major modes in a clean way. Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.1, GTK+ Version 3.24.= 33, cairo version 1.17.4) of 2022-09-15 built on freebsd.vmware Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: 13.1-RELEASE-p5 Configured using: 'configure --with-canna --with-canna-includes=3D/usr/local/canna/include --with-canna-libraries=3D/usr/local/canna/lib --without-xim --disable-largefile --without-modules --with-sound=3Dyes --with-file-notification=3Dyes CFLAGS=3D-O3' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 NOTIFY KQUEUE PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $EMACSLOADPATH: /home/keita/elisp: value of $LANG: ja_JP.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t TeX-PDF-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: /home/keita/.emacs.d/elpa/transient-20230124.2013/transient hides /usr/loc= al/share/emacs/28.2/lisp/transient ~/elisp/reftex-parse hides /usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/lisp/textmodes/reft= ex-parse /home/keita/.emacs.d/elpa/soap-client-3.2.1/soap-inspect hides /usr/local/= share/emacs/28.2/lisp/net/soap-inspect /home/keita/.emacs.d/elpa/soap-client-3.2.1/soap-client hides /usr/local/s= hare/emacs/28.2/lisp/net/soap-client Features: (pp shadow emacsbug mh-thread supercite regi mh-identity mh-letter mh-comp sendmail reftex-sel reftex-ref reftex-parse preview reftex-dcr reftex-auc reftex reftex-loaddefs reftex-vars tex-bar toolbar-x noutline outline tex-mode shell pcomplete font-latex tex-jp latex easy-mmode latex-flymake flymake-proc flymake project compile comint ansi-color ring warnings tex-ispell tex-style tex texmathp latexenc mh-search qp mm-archive smiley mail-extr mh-mime mh-gnus mh-alias multi-prompt crm mh-show goto-addr thingatpt gnus-cite gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig gnus-sum shr svg dom gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus dbus gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo gnus-spec gnus-int message dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus-range gnus nnheader wid-edit mh-seq mh-inc hl-line mh-tool-bar mh-xface mh-utils mh-folder which-func imenu gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mail-utils text-property-search mh-scan mh-e mh-compat mailabbrev mh-buffers mh-loaddefs skeleton misearch multi-isearch conf-mode mule-util kinsoku cl-extra help-mode parse-time iso8601 time-date ucs-normalize epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config url-http url-auth mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr url-gw nsm rmc puny jka-compr twittering-mode advice xml edmacro kmacro preview-latex tex-site canna-im info package browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib japan-util iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind kqueue lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 865676 104494) (symbols 48 23604 44) (strings 32 132282 18657) (string-bytes 1 5868969) (vectors 16 74186) (vector-slots 8 1681559 71081) (floats 8 424 893) (intervals 56 21817 8038) (buffers 992 35))