From: Chad Brown <yandros@MIT.EDU>
To: Fren Zeee <frenzeee@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs Developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Common vs Emacs Lisp (was: Re: return)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:04:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13199CAD-97D4-4B3B-969E-788713D4C1A2@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinMyOdmHOqej8GwAVzc_n1MCnyitnyWAOmOc07f@mail.gmail.com>
On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Fren Zeee wrote:
>
> Why not just throw the whole elisp and use CL to run emacs with
> lexical scoping ?
>
> What particular advantages do there accrue from the dyn scoped elisp
> and by incrementally making fixes to this dinosaur ?
Conservatively, I'll say at least 10,000 programmer-hours of existing, heavily
used (by emacs standards) elisp libraries, systems, programs, etc.
There are/have been projects that recreate emacs in Scheme, Common
Lisp, and Tcl (that I know of). None of them have done very well when
forced head-to-head with Emacs (Tcl doing the best, due to environment).
I suspect that I'd get widespread agreement from emacs developers to
a statement like the following:
Common Lisp contains some good stuff that I'd like to see in Emacs
and a large amount of stuff that I'd never want to see in Emacs, even
if it meant giving up the former.
..and that assumes that someone else magically does the work.
For CL in particular, it looks like Climacs could use some help.
*Chad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-04 3:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-26 8:57 return Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-26 9:19 ` return Tassilo Horn
2010-12-04 2:36 ` return Fren Zeee
2010-12-04 3:04 ` Chad Brown [this message]
2010-12-04 19:48 ` Common vs Emacs Lisp (was: Re: return) Fren Zeee
2010-12-05 10:20 ` Chad Brown
2010-12-04 6:18 ` return Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-12-04 6:49 ` return Leo
2010-11-26 9:24 ` return Miles Bader
2010-11-26 9:36 ` return Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-26 9:54 ` return Miles Bader
2010-11-26 10:13 ` return Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-26 9:44 ` return Tassilo Horn
2010-11-26 14:59 ` return Stefan Monnier
2010-11-26 15:45 ` return Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-26 18:40 ` return Stefan Monnier
2010-11-27 1:31 ` return Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-27 2:49 ` return Stefan Monnier
2010-11-27 3:06 ` return Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-03 18:41 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-03 18:43 ` return Miles Bader
2010-12-03 19:46 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-03 21:26 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-03 22:29 ` return Stefan Monnier
2010-12-03 23:00 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-04 1:35 ` return Stefan Monnier
2010-12-04 3:23 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-06 16:13 ` return Davis Herring
2010-12-06 17:15 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-03 22:44 ` return Chong Yidong
2010-12-04 9:22 ` return Helmut Eller
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