From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: S Boucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1317749236.13827.YahooMailNeo@web161614.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20111003093334.0bf5d988@kuru.homelinux.net> <4E89B613.9060305@mousecar.com> Reply-To: S Boucher NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317749250 10880 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2011 17:27:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" , "rms@gnu.org" , "emacs-delete-poll@gnu.org" To: "gebser@mousecar.com" , Suvayu Ali Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 04 19:27:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB8m5-0008HY-1G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:27:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33764 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB8m4-0003ZY-CR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB8m0-0003ZT-EU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB8lz-0005kD-Db for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.170]:39081) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB8lz-0005k0-8t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:27:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2011 17:27:16 -0000 Original-Received: from [98.139.212.216] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2011 17:27:16 -0000 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2011 17:27:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 687849.60055.bm@omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Original-Received: (qmail 17612 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2011 17:27:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1317749236; bh=Fqu4hXxkPonWIM9Q75k5bMHzk6kxQrCP9y9bLMilZTY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q7Hsz8IvvHhzYEu7rSDOzI6pdAY9F4oonKBPz2+JzjvuH8CES7A4YNAaEYP1udvIVMbxIBdg/lUcKujCR8qwQeo0FBxGvhEWORpYzC/RGtvDvSYLfNu0l2oGQBdBn7qznSKCvn0fRGhSmp6/I5iCRKhLCmt3NprZauLuqFsu/Q4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3k3dwBv4HNJrMZGe408T2rmcShV/DzLTy2lvG0/ZCAyph1bw7NzkR9ThRnYIyOD2fc1ctVGhJIvxPAuyn1nuao6djJ5TeQQ+x73EZmeHN+x+wPR0Ai1Hxdel89LF06m90wRUIHlKhBpdKOokwkz3LmFJf+1Jd1zYApJoxhCatQo=; X-YMail-OSG: FgASau8VM1nkKiSco3sGSWxOtw_sEHsxdyeqIJzRgvSoz1l OtcI3nZUb13RQLKaH0VvUvOUk5ZDfTm7DI.bro56bArNo1fhvy.50mvKYnhf qPb_1c41ilnlBcIJoOttSFb72SY0McJTTkjmvumlSI8fqgUTMXIAZFC16XO7 zsMXRPpnQBKTLcAiktbA0CFuIaqdTBp1Jgk0hrY7_Tgz8N5UgPfB5zUD5z7E UC9B5cmy1cV6Wl9w_q8q4gPKzNcF5WdmKuRP5PbSMGYjnnTJQyQgJ90P0iP6 OXKiX5H4dLhw2zq11alF_Zk2cEoe5jnBuSYU3LMkVaDENE54qMvZNYfGcipK ADTWWJu6pRBcDQIAyXxwyTd0mKHKBgQFJIZuhFOjYN3BIPtAWNdp5zAc.pCp t3Kcea5kmisuKel69_UrdmcpYpGs5zGwNtU_d8CmxAuiDQ88mYKNLYcVvZUU 5 Original-Received: from [209.5.112.166] by web161614.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 10:27:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 In-Reply-To: <4E89B613.9060305@mousecar.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 98.139.212.170 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82455 Archived-At: =0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A=0A> This is an invalid argument, --sn= ip--=0A=0AThis reminds me of the time rms asked whether menus should be ena= bled by default.=0A=0AOne objection from a hacker - I won't say who he is -= complained that it would require him to change his .emacs to disable the m= enubar.=A0 Understanding the stupidy of this argument is left as an exercis= e.=0A=0AThankfully, rms did the right thing and the menus are on by default= s... and I disable them in my .emacs :-)=0A