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X-Received-From: 98.139.212.184 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82182 Archived-At: =0A=0A>In what way is GUD not on par with the debugging capabilities of Ecl= ipse?=A0 I find Eclipse wastes screen real estate unnecessarily, =0A=0A=0AN= ote: I use gdb ui (multi-window)=0A=0AStability comes to mind.=A0 gud somet= imes get's confused with what is going on in the *gud* buffer, and the othe= r gud windows get all out of wack.=0A=0AWhen using multiple frame, gud is r= ather unintuitive as to where the new file gets shown.=0A=0AYou can't simpl= y hover over a variable with the mouse to see it's value.=0A=0ADebugging mu= ltiple processes is not well integrated in gud.=0A=0AAs for Eclipse's use o= f the screen real estate, there's plenty of flexibility to not display what= you do not care for.=0A=0AAs I said, I'm a full time Emacs user, and have = mostly been since as far back as Emacs 18.59... but I happen to enjoy a goo= d visual integration of the debugger.=0A=0AIf you reduce the discussion to = "capabilities", then the gdb command line is on par with Eclipse's "capabil= ities".=A0 But I feel bad for the colleagues who use vim, and the gdb comma= nd line (and they feel a bit silly to be using the gdb command line).=0A