From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12fc851e-a7ce-4207-9fbf-37e386342f05@googlegroups.com> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> <87lhil2io1.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427300728 2093 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2015 16:25:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:25:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 25 17:25:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yao7O-00046K-Qv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:25:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40151 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yao7O-0001j7-3h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:25:22 -0400 X-Received: by 10.42.49.136 with SMTP id w8mr31950412icf.2.1427300636239; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.178.180 with SMTP id cz20mr443680igc.14.1427300636201; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!z20no4872114igj.0!news-out.google.com!qk8ni67122igc.0!nntp.google.com!z20no3195745igj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=117.195.49.60; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 117.195.49.60 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:23:56 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211048 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103329 Archived-At: On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:49:30 PM UTC+5:30, Rusi wrote: > On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:36:37 PM UTC+5:30, Drew Adams wrote: > > > Notice, that I asked the reader to compare the ease of input. > >=20 > > Before I comment further, let me say that I agree with your point. > >=20 > > > =3D> super easy, two keys to type. > > > The unicode correspondance? I would start typing C-x 8 RET double TA= B > > > and not find it in the list. So I would have to launch clisp, > > > C-- slime RET clisp RET > > > wait for it to boot then type: > > > (lschar :name "RIGHT_ARROW") RET > > > the search for double, and not find it, then copy and paste it from y= our > > > message,=20 > > > (char-name #\=3D>) > > > obtain the character name as "RIGHTWARDS_DOUBLE_ARROW", then type > > > C-x 8 RET rightward double arrow RET > > > which, even if I had know it from the start, is still much more > > > difficult to type than just =3D>. > >=20 > > Yes and no. Yes, if you haven't used a particular Unicode char > > before or use it rarely. No, if you use it often. > >=20 > > If you use a particular Unicode character often, just give its > > insertion a command and bind that to a key. If you have 30 such > > chars, put them all on a prefix key. Or use completion on their > > command names (names you created, so easy for you to type, remember, > > complete to,...). > >=20 > > IOW, it's not a big deal to insert Unicode characters, especially > > if you insert the same ones over and over. You do not need to use > > `C-x 8 RET' each time. >=20 > You get the point better Drew -- thanks! > ASCII (7-bit) is roughly 100 chars > Full (currently defined) Unicode is 100,000 chars >=20 > Choosing to go beyond ASCII does not imply an XOR: 100 or 100,000 and not= hing else!! > One can choose one's preferred subset with varying degrees of 'accessibil= ity' >=20 > In particular for the char =3D>=20 > I have https://github.com/rrthomas/pointless-xcompose > installed > After that > =3D> is 3 chars "M=3D>" (M is the menu ie compose key) Ha! Messed up in transit! [Some will say that proves the folly of going beyond ASCII] That =3D> was supposed to be =E2=87=92 ie I meant to say =E2=87=92 is typed by the 3 chars Menu, =3D, > =E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF to make sure it stays UTF-8 this time!= !