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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id fv23-20020a17090b0e9700b0026d6ad176c6sm2913249pjb.0.2023.09.13.09.11.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:270326 Archived-At: On 9/13/2023 6:06 AM, Corwin Brust wrote: > That's helpful. I was under the impression we published snapshots for > developers and didn't typically direct users to use them at all > (except for pre-release snaps and special circumstances such as > recently when glibc got several potentially breaking changes. Well, I think this would mainly be useful for the more-enthusiastic users who want to try out new things or are impatiently waiting for some bugfix only on the dev version. I'm not sure whether the actual Emacs maintainers would direct users to the snapshots, but third-party package authors might. > I'm still puzzled as to why we should exclude the time component. > Wouldn't that be rather more useful than including the date alone for > those looking to see what revision is that last included (but doing so > without referencing git logs)? Including the time is fine too. I'm not sure how much value there is in that (personally, I'd only ever use the date for an approximate value of "how new is this"), but it doesn't cause any harm.