From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeff Clough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Key bindings proposal Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: <1281781249.3935.87.camel@logrus.localdomain> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k4nv7t72.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87aaoqjzge.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxsqzfam.fsf@telefonica.net> <87wrrue9sk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <252A986014454AF4BE2040E5DE7F6D79@us.oracle.com> <8762zeyra4.fsf@te! lefonica.net> <991CF33FDD474039999670F0A552BD88@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281781267 26504 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2010 10:21:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:21:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 14 12:21:06 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkDrM-0007Sm-Qp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:21:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39020 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkDrL-0003LK-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44390 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkDrA-0003Kh-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:20:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkDr9-0004OC-Gf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:20:52 -0400 Original-Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.125]:62850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkDr9-0004Nz-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:20:51 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nbWoJD01ruQLYOYE44JZbYtzz81AmFDL3LnuPvZDHs8= c=1 sm=0 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=wN3dDBks/ChO7xvezkoALQ==:17 a=O2KRN8bHAAAA:8 a=ZHbY1MfMspvywf0wfiwA:9 a=X-M_EpdUzhGucyzfp_f4n-PnG9QA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wN3dDBks/ChO7xvezkoALQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.70.71.134 Original-Received: from [74.70.71.134] ([74.70.71.134:49103] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id B8/2D-01723-20E666C4; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:20:50 +0000 In-Reply-To: <991CF33FDD474039999670F0A552BD88@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 (2.30.2-4.fc13) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128674 Archived-At: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 19:05 -0700, Drew Adams wrote: > > >> > The current standard is used on all platforms > > >> > > >> Windows users couldn't care less about what Emacs does on all > > >> the other platforms. > > > > > > W r o n g . That is sooooo silly. > > > > > > Lots of people (including yours truly) use multiple > > > platforms (including Windows) to do their work. > > > And some of us use Emacs. > > > > Please note that I was referring to "Windows users." The part that > > depicts them as users of other platforms too is your original > > addition. > > But that's the point. The "standard is used on all platforms". Emacs is > similar, if not the same, on all platforms. And that's important, including to > some Emacs users. > > Why, you say? What do "Windows users" care about other platforms? > > Well one reason it is important that a common standard be used across platforms > is that "Windows users" are not necessarily users of Windows _only_. Another reason is that the vast majority of third-party Emacs tutorials, wikis, how-tos, etc. aren't written by Windows users. So if it's three in the morning and you're trying to set up foo package using the customizations from someone using a *nix, the last thing you need is for things to work differently for you because you're running Windows. Jeff -- web: http://www.chaosphere.com Author of Genesys, a Free Universal Paper and Pencil RPG. http://www.chaosphere.com/genesys/