From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Patrick Michael Niedzielski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Wrong type error in dbus method Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:45:45 +0000 Message-ID: <1278344745.3600.18.camel@patrick-pc-win> References: <4c2d4db9.df0ae50a.241a.0135@mx.google.com> <87mxuap83w.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87630x9c11.fsf@gmx.de> <878w5qpaka.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278345192 5780 80.91.229.12 (5 Jul 2010 15:53:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:53:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 05 17:53:11 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVnyl-00064g-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:53:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38527 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVnyk-0006tJ-P9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34341 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVnyb-0006pl-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVnyZ-00059k-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:52:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:42842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVnyZ-00059b-Gq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:52:55 -0400 Original-Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1992592gxk.0 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t3hECvTStkLrx9SWf7vhEmqIOMHbM6anwOjQ6sTCxrI=; b=G8fqhUi43yUtlrECSODS+RHx07fZTkg/jR7rZmRHgVoIayFzGhbiNcgHnMQzCL4gJv ZK9R1KyTdobUMs+Q3w7mifeSYbKyhULfQqYCMIHMqww9Ok9Slp3aSBJsKHNy4wYKb2Lr inhRuswG1siVCfjaYx6qm3PmkC5TJkO6OGRf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; b=Cqbukc5UJGlR9vqhKSzFGn1GuX7bL2k3BUUu2X3CgIpk0BW6kjmA8hPqxHJI2EvnoC VoUzpel/4cXu5rdFiGGu1+mxjHd/Yor/4DM3HRMKKjZ2USoDzTCCKL7gyBY2zK65pupW 10Sd1FJ71em6zDMud5bOhrUcR8PT21TJXDqDE= Original-Received: by 10.229.250.204 with SMTP id mp12mr1684515qcb.250.1278345174285; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.27.244] (c-98-217-248-163.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [98.217.248.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j28sm18658978qck.35.2010.07.05.08.52.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878w5qpaka.fsf@ambire.localdomain> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126786 Archived-At: Hi, On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 11:00 +0200, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > () Michael Albinus > () Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:59:06 +0200 > > Which information do you miss in the dbus info manual? > > I typed ā€˜iā€™ and Emacs beeped: "No index". That's a big hole. > [If i were maintaining Emacs, i would add "all manuals have an > index" as a strong requirement in admin/FOR-RELEASE (Manuals).] I cannot confirm this particular problem, because I use Debian, which doesn't give me manuals by default. I found the dbus documntation only by going to the CVS repo and downloading the texinfo file. > Re this particular problem (incorrect list construction), perhaps > where it reads: > > All other arguments args are passed to METHOD as arguments. They > are converted into D-Bus types as described in *note Type > Conversion::. > > you could link to the Emacs Lisp manual, node "(elisp) Building Lists". > I see this blurb is repeated in both Synchronous Methods and Asynchronous > Methods, so another idea is to add to Overview a small section "Audience", > with appropriate hints/links on Emacs Lisp programming, message bus fu, > network etiquette, etc. The primary message there would be "to get the > best out of this manual (& the API it describes & the peers with whom you > will likely be communicating), move your mind here, first". Of course, > if you are a mechanism/policy separation purist, this might chafe a bit. I believe my infamiliarity with LISP was the biggest problem; I didn't think that quote would not evalute anything, just not evalute the list as a function. However, what you are suggesting probably would have helped me. In fact, if placed with the Type Conversion section, I think it would have solved my problem completely. Oh, and does this list not set the reply-to header? Cheers, Patrick Niedzielski