From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Infrastructural complexity. Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:05:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1248289545.7109.49.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> References: <20090712180623.GA1009@muc.de> <1247797261.6302.137.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <1247798678.6302.156.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <87ocrjtafd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <1247871746.6287.157.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <1247966060.7410.63.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <4A62F7AD.4000609@gmx.at> <87eiscn223.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4A643993.5080302@gmx.at> <87ljmjl9ow.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4A648E1D.1000007@gmx.at> <877hy3l3kj.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4A64BF58.4030001@gmx.at> <871vobkny7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4A658CD2.8020504@gmx.at> <1248195599.7551.26.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <4A65FA0E.6020800@gmx.at> <1248200131.7551.75.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <4A66E607.9030505@gmx.at> <1248280114.7109.33.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <4A67593D.6020908@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248289690 26914 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2009 19:08:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com, Miles Bader To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 22 21:08:00 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MThAU-0001aX-4z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39141 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MThAT-0007th-HZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:07:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTh8Y-0005iJ-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTh8T-0005YX-SF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37423 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTh8T-0005Xz-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:53 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp201.iad.emailsrvr.com ([207.97.245.201]:40825) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTh8O-0006tz-Fu; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD71C1B4062; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: lord-AT-emf.net) with ESMTPSA id 5B3711B400E; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4A67593D.6020908@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113020 Archived-At: On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 20:23 +0200, martin rudalics wrote: > > The four child frames around the edge of a normal > > frame, though - the four control panel areas - can > > have a nil configuration. When they do, they are > > invisible, not reached by `next-frame', and don't > > appear in the frame list. > > So why have them exist at all? One can always recreate them. So that they can have properties that persist between periods of having non-nil window configurations. -t