From: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
bpt@tunes.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GSoC: collaborative editing
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:18:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1239761905.6516.20.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Ltpxp-0001ZW-N5@fencepost.gnu.org>
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 17:14 -0400, Richard M Stallman wrote:
> Basically what you're saying is "OK, let's impose an arbitrary total
> ordering on the changes." Indeed that makes writing the collaborative
> tool easier, but it also undermines collaboration by giving priority
> to getting there *first* rather than doing it *better*.
>
> With all due respect, I think that is a misunderstanding of the issue.
> We are talking about editing conflicts on timescales of a few seconds.
> If two people are trying to edit the same part of the text at the same
> time, they are stepping on each other's feet. Which one does the
> stepping "better" is hardly an issue.
You still need a way to keep remote buffers in sync
and to re-sync them after temporary netsplits.
The issue Stephen is worried about is that the
proposal offered is to ignore that problem and
assume a reliable network. FWIW I think Stephen's
concerns are valid but that there is value in a
short experimental project that ignores the problem
to get something basic working - at least as long
as there is some confidence that the solution to the
simpler problem stands a good chance of growing into
a solution for the more general problem. Stephen
is right on strategy here but the offered tactic
might have some value anyway. (Or it might not, I'm
not evaluating.)
-t
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-15 2:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-11 20:07 GSoC: collaborative editing Brian Templeton
2009-04-12 18:02 ` Michael Albinus
2009-04-13 1:22 ` Miles Bader
2009-04-13 9:08 ` Michael Albinus
2009-04-13 14:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2009-04-13 16:11 ` Thomas Lord
2009-04-13 22:04 ` Brian Templeton
2009-04-13 22:49 ` Thomas Lord
2009-04-14 3:41 ` Brian Templeton
2009-04-14 5:24 ` Thomas Lord
2009-04-13 22:52 ` Thomas Lord
2009-04-14 10:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2009-04-15 2:03 ` Thomas Lord
2009-04-13 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-13 23:10 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-04-13 23:32 ` Brian Templeton
2009-04-14 3:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-04-14 4:02 ` Brian Templeton
2009-04-14 7:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-04-14 9:09 ` Brian Templeton
2009-04-15 2:02 ` Thomas Lord
2009-04-14 21:14 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-04-15 2:18 ` Thomas Lord [this message]
2009-04-15 1:19 ` Brian Templeton
2009-04-15 1:27 ` Brian Templeton
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