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From: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
To: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_Vauban?= <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>
Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: [ANN] Org-babel integrated into Org-mode
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:14:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12363.1278022478@alphaville.usa.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_Vauban?= <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> of "Thu\, 01 Jul 2010 22\:24\:05 +0200." <87r5jnj6hm.fsf@mundaneum.com>

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> wrote:

> Nick Dokos wrote:
> > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> :-) Actually, in this specific area I had been thinking to removing or at
> >> least deprecating shell and elisp links, because the Org-babel way is much
> >> better and clearer to have that code in a block, rather than hiding it in
> >> the invisible part of of a link.
> >
> > Here is an early vote [1] for *not* removing shell and elisp links.
> > Deprecation/documentation/scary warnings is fine with me, but I do use these
> > kinds of links and I'd like to be able to continue using them.
> 
> For my own understanding of what more I could do that I don't even think of
> right now, *if not indiscreet/private*, could you give a couple of
> applications of such links?
> 

Hi Seb,

it's nothing spectacular: on the contrary, it's all the mundane things
that I have various scripts for (either shell or elisp), e.g. munge with
my jottings of the week and prepare a weekly report that is mailed to my
manager and also exported to HTML for posterity - that's an elisp
link. It's particularly things that I don't do often enough so I tend
to forget what they are called, what arguments they take, etc.

The links provide just enough documentation to jog my memory and a
convenient way to launch the thing. I have a lot of these in many files:
they tend to be very specific and so after a while the details slip away
(e.g. the org file that describes all I know about a particular bug,
might have a link to the bugzilla entry for the bug (an html link),
email links, file links to data and a link to start a test run - this
last is generally a shell link).

Before org, for shell scripts, I would list my ~/bin directory and try
to discern which of the many hundreds of scripts in there is the one
that I need, and assuming that I would find it, I would then read the
script to find what arguments it would need. Now, I visit an org file
(one of a handful, organized by topic), read the link description and
activate it.

IOW, it could all be done in org-babel, but I started these a long time
ago and I have accumulated so many of them, that converting would be a
pain. In addition, they are spread out all over the place, so I would
have to convert them one by one as I need them and there are so many
possible places for Murphy's law to intrude, that losing the capability
would be cause for serious concern for me. Hence the preemptive vote :-)

Cheers,
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-01 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-23 21:09 [ANN] Org-babel integrated into Org-mode Eric Schulte
2010-06-23 23:23 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-06-23 23:41   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-24  0:03 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-06-24  0:39   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-24  5:12     ` Nathan Neff
2010-06-24  5:42       ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-24  7:31 ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-06-24 16:27   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-25  8:28     ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-25 15:37       ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-26  8:45         ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-26 15:59           ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-26 16:30             ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-26 17:27               ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-26 18:45                 ` Stephan Schmitt
2010-06-26 19:42               ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-26 19:51                 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-28  7:55         ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 11:53           ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-28 12:16             ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 12:54               ` Bernt Hansen
2010-06-28 13:18                 ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 13:25                   ` Bernt Hansen
2010-06-28 13:36                     ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 16:03           ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-29  7:11             ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 11:32 ` Christopher Witte
2010-06-28 16:59   ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-02 15:50     ` Christopher Witte
2010-06-29 18:23 ` Matt Lundin
2010-06-29 19:08   ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-29 21:01     ` Matt Lundin
2010-06-29 21:27       ` Matthew Lundin
2010-06-29 22:12       ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-29 22:03   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-29 23:09     ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-29 23:11       ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30  2:21         ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-30  5:37           ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30  5:40             ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 12:13     ` Matthew Lundin
2010-06-30  9:27   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-30  9:59     ` Scot Becker
2010-06-30 12:53     ` Matthew Lundin
2010-06-30 13:24       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-30 16:25     ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 17:01       ` Dan Davison
2010-06-30 17:17         ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 23:08           ` Stephan Schmitt
2010-07-01  0:20         ` Matthew Lundin
2010-07-01  6:27         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-07-01 16:11           ` Nick Dokos
2010-07-01 20:24             ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-07-01 22:14               ` Nick Dokos [this message]
2010-06-30 19:41       ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-01  7:20       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-07-01 14:55         ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-01 20:39           ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-01 22:13             ` Christian Moe
2010-07-02  4:22             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-07-02 18:52               ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-02  8:38           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-30 19:01   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 20:47     ` Matthew Lundin

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