From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jasonr@f2s.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1000: C-i is TAB on my Mac Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:26:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1232601982.4978037ec40a1@webmail.freedom2surf.net> References: Reply-To: jasonr@f2s.com, 1000@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232603549 18346 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2009 05:52:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:52:29 +0000 (UTC) To: Adrian Robert , 1000@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 22 06:53:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPsVJ-0004wP-OU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:53:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43994 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LPsU2-00066G-DV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:52:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LPsLo-0001UD-Jx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:43:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LPsLk-0001Qm-1O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:43:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46264 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LPsLj-0001QW-OP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45620) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LPsLj-0000dw-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0M5hSnk000798; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:43:29 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0M5Z3T2031050; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:35:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: jasonr@f2s.com Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1000 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1000-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1000.123260199329734 (code B ref 1000); Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:35:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1000) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Jan 2009 05:26:33 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0M5QS3s029728 for <1000@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:26:30 -0800 Original-X-Trace: 125421383/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-MX-ACCEPTED/f2s-freedom2surf-infrastructure/194.106.33.239/None/jasonr@f2s.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 194.106.33.239 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@f2s.com X-MUA: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiADALSSd0nCaiHv/2dsb2JhbACSfLYmhXM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,304,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="125421383" X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from mail5.freedom2surf.net (HELO webmail1.freedom2surf.net) ([194.106.33.239]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 22 Jan 2009 05:26:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost (i-194-106-33-239 [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC074228539; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:26:22 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from 61.4.103.130 ([61.4.103.130]) by webmail.freedom2surf.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:26:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 61.4.103.130 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:43:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24376 Archived-At: Quoting Adrian Robert : > I could use some more background here. Hitting C-h k C-i says the > key was "TAB", whereas actually hitting C-h k tab says the key was > "TAB (translated from )". Is the definition of tab Ctrl-i and > then some fancy keyboards later added a Tab key? What does emacs do > under X or w32? What behavior is expected? The definition of C-i is the ASCII control character with a code of 9 (TAB). w32 also reports simply TAB for C-h k C-i, and TAB (translated from ) for the tab key. So this is not a Mac specific thing. While I can see the connection between C-i and ASCII TAB, it does seem inconsistent, as other control keys are not reported as their ASCII meaning like this.