From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jasonr@f2s.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: window-system-version on Windows Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:25:24 +0000 Message-ID: <1228451124.4938ad347d50d@webmail.freedom2surf.net> References: <87iqpznukc.fsf@xemacs.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228451153 18132 80.91.229.12 (5 Dec 2008 04:25:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 05:26:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L8SHC-0003yu-Qu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:26:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L8SG1-0006rS-DM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:25:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L8SFw-0006q3-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:25:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L8SFv-0006pp-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:25:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32872 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L8SFv-0006pk-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:25:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]:21584) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L8SFt-0007fz-25; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:25:29 -0500 Original-X-Trace: 202392978/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-MX-ACCEPTED/f2s-freedom2surf-infrastructure/194.106.33.239/None/jasonr@f2s.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 194.106.33.239 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@f2s.com X-MUA: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgADAK87OEnCaiHv/2dsb2JhbACSOb0ygwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,718,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="202392978" X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from mail5.freedom2surf.net (HELO webmail1.freedom2surf.net) ([194.106.33.239]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 05 Dec 2008 04:25:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost (i-194-106-33-239 [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8796D228539; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:25:24 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from 61.4.103.130 ([61.4.103.130]) by webmail.freedom2surf.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:25:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87iqpznukc.fsf@xemacs.org> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 61.4.103.130 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106592 Archived-At: Quoting "Stephen J. Turnbull" : > There are political reasons for not using Win32 like everybody else > does, I know, but why let that screw up a perfectly good custom for a > free windowing system? Renaming from w32 to Win32 would not solve this, so I don't know why you even bring this up. > Also, you phrase "3rd version ... for Emacs" is somewhat ambiguous, > but I'd take that as "the third try at a Windows GUI by the Emacs > project", not as "Microsoft's third version". I think the 3 refers to the major version of NT 3.1 which is what this port of Emacs was originally written for. All these hardcoded constants to satisfy old X specific window system informational functions date from the original port by Microsoft interns.