From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M\. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:24:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1227525891.411379.2411.nullmailer@null> References: <1227274391.618443.2559.nullmailer@null> <1227353165.501338.3377.nullmailer@null> Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1227545414 3339 80.91.229.12 (24 Nov 2008 16:50:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 24 17:51:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L4eeP-0004ER-FD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:51:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52708 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L4edG-0006aJ-2L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:49:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L4duB-00085u-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:03:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L4du5-00081G-KT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:03:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50554 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L4dlM-00021j-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:54:12 -0500 Original-Received: from hq.kreditor.se ([213.136.42.58]:2182 helo=auxid.hq.kred) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4ZYK-0001rd-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:24:29 -0500 Original-Received: by auxid.hq.kred (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7DCD11378A8F; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:24:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from null (unknown [10.16.0.106]) by auxid.hq.kred (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AABB1378A74; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:24:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 2412 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:24:51 -0000 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:49:21 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106086 Archived-At: Please stop insisting that I, and other should try this. That is not how one carries a discussion. The current behaviour breaks several tings, 0) TRAMP, now you do not know when you need to type RET**2, and have to look at the minibuffer. 1) Keyboard macro, you have no idea if a buffer or file exists, and have to explicitly do M-: (find-file "FOO") RET instead of the plain more logical C-x C-f FOO RET. 2) RET now has a unclear meaning, it is impossible to know if RET will ask you something, or not. Please, just revert the current default to what it was perviously, and stop insisting that people should try this. Alan, I believe, suggested a nice solution to the problem.