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From: James Westby <jw+debian@jameswestby.net>
To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>
Cc: bazaar@lists.canonical.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git (rerun)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:17:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205929074.32007.4.camel@flash> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803191337.42928.tlikonen@iki.fi>

On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 13:37 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> Hey! I realised that the emacs bzr repository was not fully optimized 
> with "bzr pack" command. By running this command it really improves the 
> performance of bzr; now I'm getting similar numbers as some of you. I 
> really apologise for the misleading information I have spread. I want 
> to correct my mistakes by running my tests again (see below).
> 
> This raises questions though. I had downloaded the premade emacs bzr 
> repo from <http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/> and it seems to have its repo 
> pretty much optimized since it performs much better than my previous 
> benchmark. I had done almost nothing with the repository after that, 
> just some bzr-pulls and performance tests. How come the emacs bzr 
> repository slows down so much and so quickly? My experience is that you 
> definitely want to run "bzr pack" quite often.

Hi,

Thanks for updating us.

I wanted to point out that bzr automatically repacks on commit
every so often, this means that the performance degredation should
be bounded, but yes, you will often be able to speed it up by
running "pack" manually.

In recent versions (I don't know which exactly, sorry) git has
also added the auto-repack on commit. I don't know how their
strategy differs from bzr's, but they should both ensure that
it never gets really bad.

I do think the effects of repacking bzr are very drastic, so it
is probably worth investigating where the slowdown was.

Do you still have your .bzr/repository/ from the old tests?
Is there anything in .bzr/repository/obsolete_packs/ ? That would
let us know just how many packs you were running with.

Thanks,

James






  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-19 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 236+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 23:41 Emacs Bazaar repository Jason Earl
2008-03-13  1:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  1:52 ` dhruva
2008-03-13  2:26   ` Bastien
2008-03-13  2:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  3:12     ` dhruva
2008-03-13  4:06 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13  4:11   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-29  1:00     ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 15:30   ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13 15:58     ` dhruva
2008-03-13 16:50     ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 20:18     ` How to spell "commit" [was: bikeshedding bzr (or similar) :] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13  4:09 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Karl Fogel
2008-03-13  4:15   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13  4:30     ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  1:11       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  1:51         ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14  5:10           ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13  9:58     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 22:13       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 10:27         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:36           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13  5:08   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 10:39   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 14:45     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  4:19 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-03-13  5:20   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  8:04     ` dhruva
2008-03-13  9:04       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13  9:41         ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 12:08           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 23:46       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  2:52         ` dhruva
2008-03-14  3:00           ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14  3:03           ` Martin Pool
2008-03-14  5:36             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14  7:03               ` Martin Pool
2008-03-15  4:44                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 10:30         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 15:02         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-13 11:20     ` James Westby
2008-03-13 16:37       ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  7:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13  8:49   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  9:07     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 13:11     ` Aaron Bentley
2008-03-13 11:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 11:55   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14  9:58     ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 10:42       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:24         ` Matthieu Moy
     [not found]         ` <8562053f49b38b1584b86e1e4d1ec6e6, vpqbq5htrwx.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>
2008-03-14 12:42           ` David Ingamells
2008-03-14 13:05             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14  8:23         ` John Arbash Meinel
2008-03-14 13:32           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 13:39             ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:13             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:30               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:37                 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 16:17                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 16:32                     ` Daniel Mark Watkins
2008-03-14 15:15                 ` David Allouche
2008-03-14 15:21                   ` James Westby
2008-03-14 15:43                 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 13:35           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 13:44             ` James Westby
2008-03-14 13:59               ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 14:09                 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:29                   ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-15  0:39                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-15 10:30                     ` James Westby
2008-03-15 12:30                       ` James Westby
2008-03-14 23:34           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:41             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-17 12:39             ` Sergei Organov
2008-03-18  1:48               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-18  2:13                 ` dhruva
2008-03-18  4:03                   ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-18  5:00                     ` dhruva
2008-03-18  5:40                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18  9:17                     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 10:00                       ` dhruva
2008-03-19  5:44                         ` Bastien
2008-03-19  9:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 14:04                             ` Bastien
2008-03-19 14:49                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 15:30                                 ` Bastien
2008-03-29  1:00                         ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:15                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-20 14:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 14:10                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-20 15:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 20:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-21 12:51                             ` dhruva
2008-03-29  1:00                       ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 19:31                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 19:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 20:05                     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 20:26                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-22  4:23                         ` Michael Olson
2008-03-22 11:18                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-24  6:19                             ` Michael Olson
2008-03-25  9:36                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-20  1:04                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18 20:58                     ` Brian Cully
2008-03-18 21:13                       ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 21:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 22:02                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-19  1:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 23:18                       ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 23:46                         ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19  0:13                         ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19  0:17                           ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-19  1:14                             ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19  0:12                     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-26  7:56                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 22:22                         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-29  1:00                         ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-14 12:56         ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:10           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-14 13:23             ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:26               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:19             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:29               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-15  0:43             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-15 14:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-15 15:06                 ` dhruva
2008-03-15  0:44             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:43               ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 22:26           ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-15 12:09             ` dhruva
2008-03-15 21:32               ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-25 21:46               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-19 10:50           ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-14 13:03         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:24           ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:41             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:46               ` Jelmer Vernooij
2008-03-14 15:15                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-15  0:49               ` Harald Meland
2008-03-14 18:04         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 19:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:47             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:01               ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-14 20:06                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 21:43         ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-15  0:00         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 20:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14 10:23     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14  3:56   ` Forest Bond
2008-03-14 10:32     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:28       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 22:23         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 23:49           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14  4:52   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  6:21     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  6:33       ` Alexander Belchenko
2008-03-14  7:16         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  9:18           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-14 10:08             ` Matthew D. Fuller
2008-03-14 10:14               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 16:31             ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 10:35     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:37     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:30   ` Matt Nordhoff
2008-03-29  1:00   ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 13:07 ` Andrea Russo
2008-03-14  9:16   ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-13 14:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 18:35   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14 18:51   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 19:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:32       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:12       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 18:31 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2008-03-16 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 19:53   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-17 15:00     ` Michael Haggerty
2008-03-17 16:37       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 21:47   ` Toshio Kuratomi
2008-03-18 15:43 ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 15:51   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 16:05     ` dhruva
2008-03-19  2:53       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27  1:32         ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-27  2:24           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-27  2:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 11:58             ` dhruva
2008-03-27 13:59             ` Vincent Ladeuil
2008-03-29  1:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  1:30                 ` James Westby
2008-03-29  3:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  4:06                     ` James Westby
2008-03-29  4:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  1:00             ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  4:34               ` David Cournapeau
2008-03-31  0:00                 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  1:00       ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  9:19         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-29  9:58           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 10:13             ` dhruva
2008-03-29 10:26               ` David Kastrup
2008-03-31  0:00               ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 14:55             ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-03-29 16:35               ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-03-29 18:13                 ` tomas
2008-03-29 21:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-30  5:49               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30  5:49           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30  6:25             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-30 19:56               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-31  0:00           ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:19     ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-19  9:43       ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 16:02   ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-18 16:33     ` dhruva
2008-03-18 18:41       ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-03-19  1:40         ` dhruva
2008-03-18 21:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-18 17:11     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 17:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:20       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-18 16:43   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 19:19     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 20:22   ` James Westby
2008-03-19 11:37   ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git (rerun) Teemu Likonen
2008-03-19 12:17     ` James Westby [this message]
2008-03-19 22:39       ` Robert Collins
2008-03-19 16:41     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-22 17:59 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Stefan Monnier
2008-03-22 19:59   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-24  7:53 ` Christian Faulhammer

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