From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Otto Maddox" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Character sets and encodings confusion Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:26:29 +0000 Message-ID: <1200061589.21732.1230705713@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200065768 8929 80.91.229.12 (11 Jan 2008 15:36:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:36:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 11 16:36:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JDLvi-0006qh-9U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:36:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JDLvK-00006U-EX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JDKqA-0006Vw-IP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JDKq9-0006Uh-5H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JDKq9-0006UZ-1s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:33 -0500 Original-Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDKq8-0006KM-IX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:32 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BFD87701 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from web5.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.214]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:29 -0500 Original-Received: by web5.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8458559EB4; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:29 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-Enc: u2siBElowPH6GcQ7pSTifu1oy+444c4Lv+YPWR2L4kko 1200061589 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:35:15 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50657 Archived-At: When I type `C-u C-x =3D' on the character `=A3', I get something like this: character: =A3 (2211, #o4243, #x8a3, U+00A3) charset: latin-iso8859-1 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/IEC 8859-1): ISO-IR-= 100.) code point: #x23 syntax: w which means: word category: l:Latin buffer code: #x81 #xA3 file code: #xA3 (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1) display: by this font (glyph code) -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--13-130-72-72-m-130-iso10646-1 (#xA3) Why is the code point #x23? Should it not be #xA3 in Latin Alphabet 1? Because when you click on the #x23, the character list you get shows the code point as being #xA3, which is confusing. Also, what are the first three numbers in parenthesis on the `character:' line? Are they code points of some charset? (I understand that the fourth number is a Unicode code point.) --=20 Otto Maddox ottomaddox@fastmail.fm --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different=85