From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YSK Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs bindings in other programs Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:15:36 -0000 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1193854536.543639.212560@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com> References: <1193416413.534581.16220@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1193789751.765503.186620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193856124 12575 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2007 18:42:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:42:04 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 31 19:42:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1InIVt-0004Sf-5v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:42:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InIVj-00007W-CI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:41:51 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.42.208.182 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1193854536 11538 127.0.0.1 (31 Oct 2007 18:15:36 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:15:36 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1193789751.765503.186620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.7) Gecko/20070920 (CK-IBM) Firefox/2.0.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=129.42.208.182; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:153465 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:48949 Archived-At: On Oct 30, 8:15 pm, John wrote: > On Oct 26, 12:33 pm, YSK wrote: > > > [...] getting all other > > programs in my Linux PC to work with Emacs keybindings (particularly > > the navigation ones, C-e, C-a, C-n, C-p, C-k). > > I know what you mean. Frequently I go from Emacs to, say, Firefox, and > accidentally hit Emacs keys causing FF to try and print pages, open > new windows, select all, and so on. Actually, for FF, there's an > extension called Firemacs that might be interesting. Just installed Firemacs -- it works great. Also, I use an add-on called "It's All Text" that allows you launch external editors to edit text fields on web pages. > > Anyhow, I think this is part of the reason there's so many tools > written for use within Emacs. For example, you mention your Java-based > mail client: you might have a look at Emacs' built-in email client > "rmail" as a possible replacement which would allow you to use the > familiar Emacs key combos. I'm guessing the EmacsWiki has info on many > such replacement elisp apps. Can Emacs talk to a Domino server? (We use Lotus Notes for mail.) I didn't think it could do that. > > Regarding OO.o, the only thing I can suggest is that you look into > alternatives that allow you to edit raw text. For example, you could > try Plain TeX or LaTeX. Or maybe use some generic markup format for > your docs, like reStructuredText ("reST"), asciidoc, Perl 6 Pod, > Markdown, etc. With reST, there's a rst2odt.py tool to convert to OO.o > document format (though it's still fairly new). > > ---John Yes, I used to use LaTeX for this reason. But unfortunately I find I still need to use an MS Word compatible word processor quite often. On Windows, VBacs does a great job of making MS Word behave like Emacs and I'd really like to find something analogous for OO.o.