From: YSK <koyfman@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs bindings in other programs
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:55:46 -0000 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <1193444997.341811.111900@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
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On Oct 26, 8:29 pm, Xah Lee <x...@xahlee.org> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 9:33 am, YSK <koyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> «getting all other programs in my Linux PC to work with Emacs
> keybindings (particularly the navigation ones, C-e, C-a, C-n, C-p,
> C-k).»
>
> ouch, i don't think that's a good thing to do, once this subject is
> thought about.
>
> pls see:
>
> · Why Emacs's Keyboard Shortcuts Are Painfulhttp://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_kb_shortcuts_pain.html
I don't deny emacs pinky is real, but for now it feels less
comfortable for me to hit the cursor keys with my right pinky than the
Ctrl key with my left. I have tried rebinding my Ctrl to Caps Lock,
but it hasn't stuck. For one thing, I use the C-M-S combination a lot,
and it's harder with the Ctrl key in the Caps Lock position.
>
> it would be better, to design a ergonomic shortcut for cursor
> navigation, then make all your other appl to be like that.
Maybe that would be better, but how would I get all programs to
support those bindings, which is what I ultimately want?
Right now, <soapbox> I know one set of controls very well, and I like
those controls. Emacs is the only tool I know of with extermely
useful, powerful commands that I think should be part of every editing
environment. kill-line, isearch, reverse-isearch, regexp-search, M-\,
C-u C-space.. on and on. Franky, it seems strange to me that these
kinds of features aren't available by default in mature editing-heavy
packages like MS Word or OpenOffice. At least on Windows, through the
good graces of VBacs and XKeymacs, I have some of the Emacs
functionality in Word, Notes, PowerPoint, etc. </soapbox>
>
> here's my emacs one:
>
> · A Ergonomic Keyboard Shortcut Layout For Emacshttp://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html
>
> but on your question... if you are on mac os x, it by default supports
> emacs's shortcuts for cursor movement.
>
> And, on os x, you can change it system-wide to other shortcuts by
> using the
> DefaultKeyBinding.dict
>
> see for example:http://xahlee.org/emacs/DefaultKeyBinding.dict
>
> On linux, am not sure xmodmap would do it. But here's my old xmodmap
> for doing dvorak on linux, which i haven't used since 2002.
>
> · Dvorak keymap for xmodmaphttp://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/Personal_dir/dvorakKeymap.txt
>
> and on Windows i know at least QuickKeys ...
XKeymacs does a great job of enabling Emacs controls in Windows
generally.
>
> Xah
> x...@xahlee.org
> http://xahlee.org/
>
> --------------------------
>
> On Oct 26, 9:33 am, YSK <koyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I apologize in advance if this is deemed off-topic, but I will find
> > people in this newsgroup who share my interest: getting all other
> > programs in my Linux PC to work with Emacs keybindings (particularly
> > the navigation ones, C-e, C-a, C-n, C-p, C-k).
>
> > There is a wonderful Windows tool called XKeymacs that does this for
> > Windows apps, and I have been searching (in vain) for something like
> > that for Linux (or Xorg more generally). Perhaps someone here will
> > have a xmodmap script to do this, or know some obscure tool/workaround
> > to make it possible. I am aware of the "gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs""
> > workaround for GTK based apps, but programs where I do lots of editing
> > (like my Java mail client and OpenOffice) do not obey that file.
>
> > I'd appreciate any pointers.
> > Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-28 3:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-26 16:33 Emacs bindings in other programs YSK
2007-10-27 0:29 ` Xah Lee
2007-10-28 3:55 ` YSK [this message]
2007-10-31 0:15 ` John
2007-10-31 7:27 ` Sebastian Tennant
2007-10-31 7:47 ` Martin Rubey
2007-10-31 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-31 17:52 ` Martin Rubey
2007-10-31 20:06 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-11-02 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-03 0:37 ` Tim X
2007-11-05 23:02 ` David Kastrup
2007-11-23 0:20 ` David Combs
2007-11-23 5:05 ` Tim X
2007-10-31 18:16 ` Amy Templeton
[not found] ` <mailman.2805.1193854394.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-10-31 19:06 ` Rajappa Iyer
2007-10-31 14:12 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-10-31 14:14 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-10-31 18:11 ` YSK
2007-10-31 18:15 ` YSK
2007-10-31 19:19 ` Sven Bretfeld
2007-10-31 20:08 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-12-04 13:08 ` Sebastian Tennant
[not found] ` <mailman.4489.1196774026.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-04 14:46 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-12-04 20:55 ` Sebastian Tennant
2007-12-04 19:56 ` Malte Spiess
2007-12-04 22:02 ` Sebastian Tennant
2007-12-16 19:05 ` David Combs
2007-12-17 20:51 ` Malte Spiess
[not found] ` <mailman.2808.1193858401.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-10-31 20:22 ` YSK
2007-11-01 3:20 ` Alok G. Singh
[not found] ` <mailman.2824.1193886791.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-11-06 21:31 ` YSK
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