From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wojtek Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Polish characters in emacs Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:36:19 -0000 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1192811779.337702.87440@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> References: <1192136997.140783.256650@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1192208554.554284.308310@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192812128 29589 80.91.229.12 (19 Oct 2007 16:42:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 19 18:42:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IiuvE-0005nt-Ti for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:42:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iiuv7-0007fq-EK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:41:57 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 65 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.192.247.27 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1192811780 19548 127.0.0.1 (19 Oct 2007 16:36:20 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:36:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070718 Fedora/2.0.0.5-1.fc7 Firefox/2.0.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=138.192.247.27; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:153081 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:48585 Archived-At: On Oct 12, 3:44 pm, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 12.10.2007 um 21:03 schrieb Wojtek: > > > My IT people are going to take away the Fedora 5 machine so this may > > be a mute point but I would > > like to learn what is going on. > > What is the version of GNU Emacs on Fedora Core 5? Probably some > early version 21. > > What is the phenomenon by which you judge that GNU Emacs can't > display =D3=F3 ? I don't have more > guesses ... When I enter letters with diacritic marks on the Fedora 5 emacs, I just see black boxes instead of the letters. When I enter on the Fedora 5 emacs and then use C-x =3D to examine the character, it is character 331813 (0x51025). However on the Fedora 7 machine it is character 2353 (0x931). Clearly(?) the same keyboard message is not being transmitted to the Fedora 5 emacs. > Have you checked lucidasanstypewriter-12 font with xfd? You can use a > bigger size to see the glyphs more clearly. (I was writing of the > TrueType fonts, which are not restricted to some ISO Latin encoding.) > Have you checked with xfontsel or xlsfonts which fonts exist on > *your* local Fedora Core 7 system that support Polish characters? Can > you pass such a font's name to GNU Emacs? (Since the DISPLAY variable > on the Fedora Core 5 system is set to your local Fedora Core 7 > system, remote GNU Emacs uses your local fonts. So the chances are > excellent that Unicode fonts exist - although they might not be > installed. And from these, ISO Latin or MS sub-encodings are > automatically derived, so you can make GNU Emacs' memory use small.) > Check X11's Font Path (xset -q) and correct it if necessary, i.e. > there are more directories with fonts than the X server knows. I have tried various fonts when launching emacs with no change. > You can do the same in Cygwin ... When I connect to each machine from Cygwin I get the same behaviour. > Which encoding is displayed in mode-line? I have two dashes at the beginning of my mode line in both emacses > If you want some help you have to give the answers we ask for. > They're not meant to waste your (leisure) time. I should add that I am running emacs 21.4 on Fedora 5 and emacs 22.1 on Fedora 7. The reason that the behaviour puzzles me is that I understand that both of the emacses are getting their fonts from the same place and hence it is (based on my understanding) a matter of emacs displaying the font. When I ask emacs to describe-coding-system I get that it is utf-8 for terminal output in both emacses. I have used xfd to look at the font and there I can see the required diacritical marks. Thank you for your comments. Wojtek