From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Case Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is there any good website for emacs newbie? Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 00:30:45 -0400 Message-ID: <1178253045.17374.18.camel@CASE> References: <1178245635.686969.214290@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178253064 20544 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 04:31:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 04:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: SimpleCode Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 06:31:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjpRa-0001yy-FM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 06:30:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjpYB-0000Ku-2J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 00:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjpXu-0000Io-Mf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 00:37:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjpXs-0000FT-M5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 00:37:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjpXs-0000Er-CP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 00:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.36.80]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HjpRG-00077a-SA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 00:30:39 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 46125 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 04:30:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UoLpE8iPg0Adm/9Pr+gr/lxPiofMcGTsrYlB2xgKGtgR/6xKnsmZ8MV3uePhStUvztuZLXeufGDt5uHVOvUNzIbiUmTI2Q+llPkr9WbVmvUW+n0dIMboxcjEylg+zbLny0CDy9fOPaMMFKF26pzFQJQc9lkPyHwXE/iUjLjWPxY= ; Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (billlinux@rogers.com@74.104.51.86 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2007 04:30:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: C2Eb8awVM1kxo9cPhIo.1zQ_nQPQCQ2h5s84tIe0MZwW3QAovLoEtWXI1OXHzpuNtw-- In-Reply-To: <1178245635.686969.214290@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43635 Archived-At: Hi SimpleCode; I am a newbie as well. There are lots of tutorials around, but the one that did the most for me was: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/emacs-lisp-intro/html_mono/emacs-lisp-intro.html For two years I learnt emacs by rote and by copying. Everything I tried to do lead to errors and frustration. It has taken me 5 or 6 intermittent hours of following the text and trying the few samples in the emacs-lisp-intro to finally get it. The intro is well written, clear and covers the main concepts at a learnable pace. Now that I understand basic concepts of how emacs and lisp work, I love it. The site mentioned above is an HTML version of the GNU emacs-lisp intro -- take your pick; the content is the same. On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 19:27 -0700, SimpleCode wrote: > I am a emacs newbie but I like it. > It is worth the trouble. -- Regards Bill