From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "std" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs 22 on win XP, selection-coding-system, and copy & paste outside emacs Date: 3 Aug 2006 05:08:50 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1154606929.961508.191630@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154597197.957129.171380@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154599512.945358.168520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154600309.942065.263290@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1154608848 27248 80.91.229.2 (3 Aug 2006 12:40:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 14:40:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8cVA-0003Lf-7H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:40:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8cV9-0000M4-Gr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:40:35 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.102.80.7 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1154606935 28821 127.0.0.1 (3 Aug 2006 12:08:55 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:08:55 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060719 Firefox/1.5.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 cache.grignon.inra.fr:3128 (squid/2.5.STABLE9) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=138.102.80.7; posting-account=IDMj_QwAAACA7TtnQWvB8tVHkkNHb6vH Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:140810 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:36435 Archived-At: Thanks a lot Pete for this valuable information! St Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 03.08.2006 um 12:18 schrieb std: > > > By the way, is latin-9 a smart choice? (compared to latin-1, or other > > utf-8 or -16...). I have no idea on these things. > > Depends - I use ISO Latin-9/ISO 8859-15 in LaTeX, because then I can > see =80 (ISO Latin-1 does not have the Euro currency), my usual > environment is UTF-8 based. GNU Emacs 22.0.50 still is not perfect in > UTF-8 use (a month name like M=E4r in dired is displayed as 'M=C3=A4r', > file names appear as 'RGB a=CC\210o=CC\210u=CC\210=C3=A6=C3\206U=CC\210O= =CC > \210A=CC210.txt' or 'Perl_und_Bu=CC\210cher'), the Unicode Emacs 23.0.0 > performs better, so I'd recommend so stay with some 8 bit encoding > like ISO Latin-9/ISO 8859-15. And use UTF-8 or UTF-16 for data > exchange with MS Windows XP applications. Both encodings are > "representations" of a file's contents. UTF-8 uses 8 bit words to > code this contents, usually using three or two of these words for > each character, only in case of ASCII or ISO Latin-1 use one such > word suffices. UTF-16 uses 16 bit words - so it can address the first > 64 K characters in Unicode uniformly, although it makes a difference > in which sequence/direction the two octets of bits are read, BE or > LE. Behind the Basic Multilingual Plane (BMP), UTF-8 and UTF-16 need > to use 32 bits to address the Unicode characters - just as UTF-32 > uses from the start. But of course each of these three systems uses > its own codes in this range(s)/plane(s) ... >=20 > -- > Greetings >=20 > Pete >=20 > Bake Pizza not war!