From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:30:31 +0100 Message-ID: <1109763031.811246.2962.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> References: <01c51ee3$Blat.v2.4$8124a8c0@zahav.net.il> <20050302083113.YHKM20421.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@cante.net> Reply-To: ams@kemisten.nu NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109764664 14228 80.91.229.2 (2 Mar 2005 11:57:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 12:57:43 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6STw-0001ds-SF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:57:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6Smh-0001TS-Cg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 07:16:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D6SLT-0003Wk-O0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:48:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D6SLR-0003VT-7f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:48:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6SLO-0003Rs-LR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [130.238.7.33] (helo=limicola.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D6S58-0004cm-AU; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:31:59 -0500 Original-Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 975DE4880; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:31:54 +0100 (MEZ) Original-Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s71687; Wed, 2 Mar 05 12:30:53 +0100 Original-Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F38648E9; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:30:33 +0100 (MEZ) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9CA38013; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:30:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Psilocybe [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22735-01-11; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:30:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from Update.UU.SE (Lem.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.73]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with SMTP id C3ECB38012; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:30:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 2963 invoked by uid 30270); Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:30:31 -0000 Original-To: jari.aalto@cante.net (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) In-reply-to: <20050302083113.YHKM20421.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@cante.net> (jari.aalto@cante.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34053 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34053 Nobody explained good arguments why current M-g is immovable? ,---- | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-03/msg00642.html | From: Richard Stallman | | "I want Emacs to move in the direction of doing word processing. It | may take years, but we will get there. Then commands to specify faces | will become important, and will need a good key binding. | | I chose the M-g binding for that reason, and the reason continues to | have force. So I don't intend to change that binding." `---- ... and I doubt much has changed in the year that has passed since then. Jari, you really have to stop arguing from the standpoint "Emacs must have M-g as goto-line or else". I really feel that the use of goto-line to warrant a single char key binding is overblown--specially for a single keystroke binding!; if people use it that often then one should write a proper mode for Emacs to ease whatever one is doing instead of introducing a new keybinding. But what is wrong with C-x ~ for example? What about allowing for something like C-u C-u C-l to recenter at a specific line (if it is just C-u C-u C-l, then prompt the user, if C-u C-u 100 C-l then recenter at line 100)? I think this is quite nice, makes sense keybinding wise. Happy hacking.