Can't get italic face!

Can't get italic face!

[romeomedina]

Hi.

I want to get the italic face, but can't:
I select a word, then do `M-g i' and nothing happens.
Instead, `M-g b' for bold face and `M-g u' for underline work fine.
Any suggestion?
I have CVS Emacs 21.3.50.

Thanks,
Rodolfo




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Re: Can't get italic face!

[August]

On tis, 2005-02-08 at 23:30 +0100, romeomedina@libero.it wrote:
> I want to get the italic face, but can't:
> I select a word, then do `M-g i' and nothing happens.
> Instead, `M-g b' for bold face and `M-g u' for underline work fine.
> Any suggestion?
> I have CVS Emacs 21.3.50.

Does the selected font define an italic shape?

-- 
August

Re: Can't get italic face!

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo wrote:

> I want to get the italic face, but can't:
> I select a word, then do `M-g i' and nothing happens.
> Instead, `M-g b' for bold face and `M-g u' for underline work fine.
> Any suggestion?
> I have CVS Emacs 21.3.50.


August wrote:

> Does the selected font define an italic shape?


I don't think so. When I try to customize the font
I select the item 'slant' and, under this, the option
'oblique', but the example shown by Emacs does not
show any oblique shape, but the default shape instead.
Is it possible, and how?, to obtain an italic shape?
After all, the 'bold' and 'underline' face work fine.

Thanks,
Rodolfo

Re: Can't get italic face!

[August]

On ons, 2005-02-09 at 11:07 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo wrote:
> 
> > I want to get the italic face, but can't:
> > I select a word, then do `M-g i' and nothing happens.
> > Instead, `M-g b' for bold face and `M-g u' for underline work fine.
> > Any suggestion?
> > I have CVS Emacs 21.3.50.
> 
> 
> August wrote:
> 
> > Does the selected font define an italic shape?
> 
> 
> I don't think so. When I try to customize the font
> I select the item 'slant' and, under this, the option
> 'oblique', but the example shown by Emacs does not
> show any oblique shape, but the default shape instead.
> Is it possible, and how?, to obtain an italic shape?
> After all, the 'bold' and 'underline' face work fine.

What I mean is that if you are using a raster font that don't have an
italic shape (no such glyphs defined) then you're out of luck. Some
fonts, e.g. Proggy Clean, don't even have a bold shape. With vector
fonts (e.g. True Type) the application can sometimes change the shape of
the a font (with no italic/bold shape defined) by applying a transform.
Nevertheless, the result will only look good if the font has a real
italic shape defined.

-- 
August

Re: Can't get italic face!

[romeomedina]

Rodolfo wrote:

> I want to get the italic face, but can't:
> I select a word, then do `M-g i' and nothing happens.
> Instead, `M-g b' for bold face and `M-g u' for underline work fine.
> Any suggestion?
> I have CVS Emacs 21.3.50.


August wrote:

> Does the selected font define an italic shape?
> [...]
> If you are using a raster font that don't have an
> italic shape (no such glyphs defined) then you're out of luck. Some
> fonts, e.g. Proggy Clean, don't even have a bold shape. With vector
> fonts (e.g. True Type) the application can sometimes change the shape of
> the a font (with no italic/bold shape defined) by applying a transform.
> Nevertheless, the result will only look good if the font has a real
> italic shape defined.


Yes, you are right. I was using a sony fixed font, configured
in my ~/.Xdefaults. When I removed ~/.Xdefaults, and then restart X,
I got the italic face with the default Emacs font.
Thanks indeed.
However, it a shame: I like that sony fixed font very much,
and it's sad it doesn't have the possibility to define an oblique shape.
Nothing at all to do in this sense?

Cheers,
Rodolfo




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Re: Can't get italic face!

[romeomedina]

Rodolfo wrote:

> I want to get the italic face, but can't:
> I select a word, then do `M-g i' and nothing happens.
> Instead, `M-g b' for bold face and `M-g u' for underline work fine.
> Any suggestion?
> I have CVS Emacs 21.3.50.


August wrote:

> Does the selected font define an italic shape?
> If you are using a raster font that don't have an
> italic shape (no such glyphs defined) then you're out of luck. Some
> fonts, e.g. Proggy Clean, don't even have a bold shape. With vector
> fonts (e.g. True Type) the application can sometimes change the shape of
> the a font (with no italic/bold shape defined) by applying a transform.
> Nevertheless, the result will only look good if the font has a real
> italic shape defined.


Rodolfo:

> Yes, you are right. I was using a sony fixed font, configured
> in my ~/.Xdefaults. When I removed ~/.Xdefaults, and then restart X,
> I got the italic face with the default Emacs font.


Hey, it's strange:
when I reopen the file the changed I did in character face are not saved.
Why? I can I make those changes permanent?

Rodolfo




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Re: Can't get italic face!

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 10.02.2005 um 15:02 schrieb romeomedina@@libero..it:

> Hey, it's strange:
> when I reopen the file the changed I did in character face are not 
> saved.
> Why? I can I make those changes permanent?

Because you did not change the file but only how the buffer represents 
the file's contents!

This customization stuff is meant for syntax highlighting not for word 
processing à la MS. The highlighting is based on rules about the 
buffer's mode. Then regular expressions find things that are to be 
highlighted.

What you did before was for your eyes only and to keep you from real 
work.

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Greetings

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Re: Can't get italic face!

[romeomedina]

Rodolfo wrote:

> I want to get italic face [...]
> I select a word, then do `M-g i' [...].
> [...]
> Hey, it's strange:
> when I reopen the file the changes I did in character face are not saved.
> Why?


Pete wrote:

> Because you did not change the file but only how the buffer represents
> the file's contents!
>
> This customization stuff is meant for syntax highlighting not for word
> processing à la MS. The highlighting is based on rules about the
> buffer's mode. Then regular expressions find things that are to be
> highlighted.
>
> What you did before was for your eyes only and to keep you from real
> work.


I see.
So, there's no way to make those buffer changes work also for the file?

Rodolfo




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Re: Can't get italic face!

[Neon Absentius]

n Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:19:51PM +0100, romeomedina@libero.it wrote:

> I see.
> So, there's no way to make those buffer changes work also for the
> file?

Try the enriched mode. Its a minor mode that allows you to save face
informatinon.

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